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Solar Powered Pool Heater | 18 comments (18 topical)
Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater (none / 0) (#5)
by jubalearly on Wed Jul 09, 2003 at 01:01:35 PM MST

        I agree with you about the latest Homepower article/system being too complicated. Why not write yours up and submit it? I for one would like to see it there. You could do it in diary form here & have it critiqued before sending it to Homepower.

Russ



Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater (none / 0) (#7)
by wooferhound on Fri Jul 11, 2003 at 06:33:01 AM MST

 I remembered that I did'nt mention the most complicated part of this system. The pool manufacturer suggests that I run the Filter Pump for 5 hours a day to properly clean the water. So I have the pump plugged into a small Wall Wart power Timer. I have the timer set to run from 11:AM till 4:PM in the hottest sunniest part of the day. My house starts to shade the Collector at about 5:PM in the afternoon. If it were to run at night, It would become a radiator and I would lose the heat that I gained in the daytime.

 Also I breifly checked the HomePower Magazine website for article submission procedures and requirements, but could'nt find it. I'll probably E-Mail them sometime soon.
T i m
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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater (none / 0) (#8)
by Wolfie1 on Fri Jul 11, 2003 at 10:48:33 AM MST

Tim, try this:-

http://www.homepower.com/magazine/write_for_hp.cfm

Martin.

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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater (none / 0) (#9)
by wooferhound on Sat Jul 12, 2003 at 07:32:27 AM MST

Thanks, I looked it over and am highly considering trying to wrte it up.

I guess they take these as volunter submissions, as they didn't mention anything about payment. . .
W o o f -={(
Huntsville Alabama U.S.A.

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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater (none / 0) (#10)
by Wolfie1 on Mon Jul 14, 2003 at 05:17:06 AM MST

I thought they did pay. But you are right, I can't see any rates. That's a question to ask the Dans, as they had an article in there last year.

Martin.

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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater - motor run time (none / 0) (#11)
by John on Tue Jul 15, 2003 at 12:57:41 PM MST

Just a comment about how long to run your pump. Manufacturers sometimes go overboard on recomendations to cover themselves in a worst case situation. I would recomend experimenting with shorter run times, depending on actual pool usage, to save a LOT of electricity.
Enjoy your pool!

John

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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater - motor run time (none / 0) (#12)
by wooferhound on Wed Jul 16, 2003 at 12:54:24 AM MST

 I have a 2750 gallon pool. The pump maker says that the pump will filter 2000 gallons of water in 5 hours, so it is all filtered pretty good in 2 days, I like that.

 Also ,  The less the pump runs in one day, the less Solar heat that I get ...
W o o f -={(
Huntsville Alabama U.S.A.

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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater - motor run time (none / 0) (#13)
by John on Wed Jul 16, 2003 at 12:26:14 PM MST

Sounds like your pump is real small, so it might not draw too much current. I have a big 1 H.P. pump with 2" lines for my about 40,000 gallon in ground pool, so I need to watch how long I run it. If I ran it the 8 hours a day the pool people recomend my electric bill would be enormous! I don't know the flow rate, but it sure pumps a LOT of water FAST, and because of that I don't need to run it as long as a smaller pump would need to run just to maintain the pool.

John

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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater - motor run time (none / 0) (#14)
by thebbqguy on Sun Aug 10, 2003 at 08:44:02 AM MST

My pool moter is a 1.5 hp, and pool is an 18 foot above ground.

I am interested in Tim's solar system and sent him an email. Also had to sign up here to post a message :-)

I'm interested in hearing from anyone that also has tried a solar system with the large black pipe.

I have 3 solar systems running to heat my pool, - all inexensive, - using the black utility hose that is 1/2" thick, that is used for drainage, and used in supermarkets to move water around in the building.  I bought it in the hardware section, and cost me $9.99 for 100 feet..... ( That's Canadian $) so I guess it would be about $7 U.S. funds or less for that kind of tubing.

you can see images of my system here: www.powershotgraphics.com/pool

I get 6.3 U.S. gallons per minute of flow from the 3 solar tubes total,
so that's 378 gallons per hour total.

Water on a good day comes out of the tubes at 88-89 degrees, once the thing thing has been running for a good 15 minutes, - once it has cleared out the water and is grabbing fresh water from the pool..... when I first start up the system and if water has been sitting in the solar tubes for even 10 minutes, - and if it is sunny, the water coming out is about 127 degrees F ! - so hot it burns the hands, but that doesn't last long.... about 3 minutes, and then it starts to cool off.

I'm really interested in the big tubes though and would love to know how it compares to the small tubes I'm using.

Professional solar panels use very very small straw like tubes, with fins, and this is much more effecient than my system using 1/2 pipe.... so I have to wonder if the large tubes like this are as effecient .....

If you think about it, the larger the pipe, the longer length one would need to get them hot enough, - I'm assuming the tubes are 100% full, and are pushing out many gallons per minute though.  Anyway it looks like a great system and well put together, and I would like to try my hand at it, but to get the heat out of it, would I need to do a good 600 feet of this large tube to really get water hot out of it ... hmm.....  I'm just not an expert.

anyway nice chatting.

Mark,
Ontario, Canada.

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Re: Solar Powered Pool Heater - motor run time (none / 0) (#15)
by thebbqguy on Sat Aug 23, 2003 at 07:14:25 PM MST

hi there Tim, ( original poster of the story)

I noticed your post was from July, it's now the end of August, - I was really intersted in trying your method of using the large 1-1/2" pipe but came across info that the large pipe like yours would need about 3000 feet - in order to equal the same length of a 500 foot 1/2" hose.  The reason is surface area, - that huge pipe you are using just cannot collect heat with such a small lenght of it being use.  If you took that pipe and put made it the length of a football field, then that's a different story though.

Anyway I wish you had posted some final results.

Great looking project though and it's great to see people trying so many different techniques to get free solar heat.

Mark.

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