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Static Electricity Wind Generator | 19 comments (19 topical, editorial)
Re: Static Electricity Wind Generator (none / 0) (#13)
by HareBrained on Sun Apr 4th, 2004 at 10:56:38 AM MST
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Thanks, another interesting link.

These two schemes seem to have in common the use of a spark
plug gap to allow charge to build up in the collector and
then discharge it suddenly.  Why is this needed?  Is it acting
like a high-voltage diode, in a region where normal diodes
would get fried regularly?

I wonder if you could draw the charge off more continuously
and evenly, and perhaps get better efficiency, just by using
an inductor and putting it through a normal diode.  Perhaps the
diode would be shielded from the high voltage by the inductor.

Are there normal diodes that would survive a forward bias of
1000 volts or so?  How much do they cost?

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Re: Static Electricity Wind Generator (none / 0) (#15)
by TomW on Sun Apr 4th, 2004 at 11:08:05 AM MST
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HareBrained


Are there normal diodes that would survive a forward bias of
1000 volts or so?  How much do they cost?

They sure do make them. And they are free if you take some time to salvage a few microwaves. They also have high voltage capacitors in them, too.

I think the reason you need to let the charge accumulate for a period of time is that if it was connected to a load it would simply dissipate as low levels that would be unusable.

Cheers.

TomW

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Re: Static Electricity Wind Generator (none / 0) (#17)
by HareBrained on Sun Apr 4th, 2004 at 11:59:50 AM MST
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Ok, microwave ovens sound like veritable treasure troves of
useful parts.

Are you saying the charge would be dissipated due to resistive
losses in any kind of circuit?  I would think it would be stored
in the magnetic field of an inductor or a charge in a capacitor.
But, I guess these "storage" mechanisms will also dissipate due
to field collapse/leakage before too long.

Seems like a real switch (mosfet, maybe?  would it withstand
the high voltage?) would be more efficient than a spark gap.
What do you think?

I assume a buck-boost circuit is able to convert high volts/low amps
to low volts/higher amps.  I am still a bit confused about how this
works, though: there are only a limited number of coulombs per second
flowing into the input.  Where do the other electrons come from?

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Re: Static Electricity Wind Generator (none / 0) (#18)
by bob golding (photoman290 at yahoo dot com) on Sun Apr 4th, 2004 at 02:35:09 PM MST
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spark gaps are simple cheap and fairly indestructable. if you try to use  any sort of silicon in this system it will  eventually fry. you need to build up the charge on any static machine. if you try and  take power continously you will never build up enough charge as tom says. if there is lightning around it would be wise to disconnect the inverter at least ,and have the thing a long away from the house as well or have a good lightning protection system in place. look up lightning protection on some of the ham sites. i intend to try this as soon as i can find some wire. i see multistrand telephone cable thrown away quite often this sounds ideal as there is  more insulation than wire.

bob


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