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graduating to harddrive neos | 16 comments (16 topical, editorial)
Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by electrondady1 on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 at 03:37:51 PM MST
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your absolutly right,i feel good about rescueing these little mags from the waste stream . but how practical they are to use when you consider the time involved in obtaining them and the design limits imposed by using reclaimed material

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Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by pyrocasto (pyrocasto at hotmail dot com) on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 at 04:00:55 PM MST
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Well if you're like me and enjoy doing it, and have nothing better to do anyway, then you are set! I need to go around some local computer shops and ask. I've done my rounds for microwaves mags, and have enough to do a dual rotor genny. Time to build up the harddrive mags now. :-D

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Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by electrondady1 on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 at 05:11:24 PM MST
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a very interesting bonus in the process of dismantling the harddrives , one of the most efficient bearings, (motor), ive ever run across. all squared up and attached to a mounting bracket. since it's my intention to build a lot of small vawts i can use them.
 there is an issue with the hd neos that complicates there use, it seems there are at least four main thicknesses used in there industry. i'm thinking it would be possible to cut a releaf in a rotor disk to overcome this drawback and present a level face to the stator.

 

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Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by jimjjnn (jimjjnn at yahoo dot com) on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 at 07:07:20 PM MST
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Those different thickness HD mags also have different strength magnetism so you have to give that a thought ,also.
Jim Denver,CO
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Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by electrondady1 on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 at 09:23:32 PM MST
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yes it's rather complex,one rotor could have a different size mags than the other . in order to build the sort of genni i'd like it might take a bit more time. and a lot more harddrives.

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Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by ghurd on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 at 08:54:45 PM MST
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A couple thoughts.
Don't stack neos and ceramics. The ceramics will lose.

While stacking only increases the magnetic power (and output) by 20%, and doubling the poles increases the potential output by 200%.

But those are thin, and the airgap should be less than 150% of the magnet thickness per pole. So I figure they must be stacked or the stator is too thin to work with.
Who can make a usable stator that thin?

If the magnets are only 4 different thicknesses, somebody got lucky.
Some have 4 mags, 1 pole per face. Some have 2 mags, 2 poles per face. Some have 1 mag, 2 poles per face. Some are long, some short, some wide or narrow, or thick or thin. I have not noticed any standard yet.
Hint: The older and smaller the better, as in under 100megs, have 2 big fat thick neos.

I'm working on a HD gennie now but the HDs are not flowing my way fast enough. Had time to think. There were supposed to be 10 HDs today, ended up with none.
I'll decide the single or double rotor, poles and diameter when I give up waiting for more HDs. That will not be long.
So far there is enough for a single rotor 8 pole.
The number of magnets per pole is 2 to 7 to get about the same 3/8" thickness.
Coil is 3/4" high. The coil hole is 3/8 to 5/8", but most mags are 5/8".

My plan is a looking like single rotor 8 pole 12 overlapping coils.
This morning, expecting a pile of HDs, it was dual rotor 8/6. So who knows?
G-

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Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by electrondady1 on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 at 10:25:11 PM MST
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 gurd,i've got three stores saving them for me . i drop in every two weeks. some times you get 5 some times you get 15 . i was given two very old ones that have no neos at all they used stepper motors to control the position of the disk reading devise.
 you think the neos will hurt the ceramic mags over time?
 it sounds like your 'gonna use them as is two poles per mag.

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Re: graduating to harddrive neos (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by ghurd on Sun Nov 20th, 2005 at 09:15:24 AM MST
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I broke them in half because I have some 1 pole per face also.
There was a HD story (by mrkooo?) where UGL suggested how to use the mags whole.
Long ago there was a story about stacking neos and ceramics. People who know more than me said the ceramics will be damaged.

I do have good magnets, but they are a little large for this project.
G-

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