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Update on Lighthouse Sculpture | 15 comments (15 topical, editorial)
Re: Update on Lighthouse Sculpture (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by richhagen (richhagen (a t) Juno.com) on Mon Dec 26th, 2005 at 12:11:54 AM MST
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One simple shunt regulator idea would be to place a battery of strings of zener diodes in parallel, each diode in series with a small value resistor.  If you pick about 25 volt zeners rated at .5 watts, then from power = current times voltage, at .5 watts, the current would be 20 milliamps.  If you couple this with a 150 ohm resistor, then it will reach 28 volts across the two in series at approximately 28 volts while soaking up 20 milliamps.  It will conduct essentially no current below 25 volts.  Connect as many of these strings as necessary in parallel to soak up more than the maximum possible power generated during the worst gale by your stepper.  Realize that this simple circuit is simply converting the surplus energy to heat starting at 25 volts, so don't insulate it and allow for cooling.  When the alterator starts to spin faster than what would be required to produce 25 volts, it would start to become stiffer, the belt assembly will have to handle the stress of a high wind situation as the motor will become extremely hard to turn at higher rpm as you exceed 25 volts.

Here I see someone has 28 volt zeners, .5 watt, a hundred pack for $3.50 US
http://cgi.ebay.com/100pcs-1N5255B-28-VOLT-0-5-WATT-ZENER_W0QQitemZ7574878487QQcategoryZ7287QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem
Of course when you add a little resistance, the voltage will go up a bit higher.

Of course, since LED's are so cheap, one could make the same sort of thing with a huge number of leds, the byproduct would be a mixture of light and heat then, and could give an interesting effect to the sculpture in a gust of wind at night.  Simply hook enough LED's in series so that they will not conduct until the voltage reaches a threshold value, and then add a small resistance in series as with the LED string, then parallel many of these strings together so that the current handling ability far exceeds that of the generator.  

For my little 'toy' stepper mill:  http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2005/4/8/31534/30936
I essentially do this, the regulating LED's in that case are the only load up to about 3.9 volts when some zener diodes start conducting.  It would simply take more power than the generator can produce to blow the zeners. yet the led's light up when the blades spin up in the wind.  You will have a voltage drop across the leads from the stepper to the LED's in you system, as the copper wires have some resistance and function exactly as a small value resistor in the circuit.  There's probably too much resistance in the power line from my little stepper to hold down the rpms of the alternator on that one, but if I hooked up  a thicker cable and more strings of LED's in parallel it would to a greater extent although the stepper doesn't do this nearly as well as a dual rotor axial flux alternator does (they stop with a bang and an arc like a welder when you short the leads and become incredibly stiff to turn).  

Since it is a VAWT I'm guessing that overspeeding is generally not a problem even open circuit, so having a relay that opens the circuit to the LED's above a certain voltage, with a coil/resistance circuit that can handle the highest voltage output of the alternator in the worst gale might be an option.  Even two in series in case of a failure in one might not be bad to protect the LEDs.  

Rich Hagen
'A Joule saved is a Joule made'



Re: Update on Lighthouse Sculpture (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by finnsawyer on Mon Dec 26th, 2005 at 09:01:31 AM MST
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Since each Zener diode guarantees a set voltage, he could split each resistor into a resistor in series with another resistor in parallel with an LED and have the LEDs light up in sequence as wind speed increases (as succeeding Zeners conduct).
GeoM
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Re: Update on Lighthouse Sculpture (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by electrondady1 on Mon Dec 26th, 2005 at 09:36:19 AM MST
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wow, when you guys finish with Aarons light house (congratulations Aaron) could you swing north and help me with a baseboard heater?

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Re: Update on Lighthouse Sculpture (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by finnsawyer on Mon Dec 26th, 2005 at 10:08:50 AM MST
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North where?  I'm at 47 degrees north latitude.
GeoM
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Re: Update on Lighthouse Sculpture (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by electrondady1 on Mon Dec 26th, 2005 at 05:06:07 PM MST
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ok, come almost due east. don't get your feet wet in lake michigan.and you'll need a boat for lake huron! i'm at about 44.4 deg n.lat. and and 80 deg. longatude. west of greenwich. no sun block required. but bring a warm coat! diodes i understand but i'm just starting to come to grips with the function of capacitors and there possible use in a batteryless heating system .also , the effects on voltage from resistors also, transistors etc, etc, a battery of strings of zener diodes in parallel, each diode in series with a small value resistor. anyone wanna' sketch that out!!! split each resistor into a resistor in series with another resistor in parallel with an LED and have the LEDs light up in sequence as wind speed increases (as succeeding Zeners conduct). oh yea, ive got a lot of reading to do!!

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Re: Update on Lighthouse Sculpture (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by finnsawyer on Tue Dec 27th, 2005 at 09:26:15 AM MST
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Well, good luck.  You can probably compress the time needed by getting a book on basic circuit theory.  Another possibility would be to enroll in an electronics course at a nearby college.  Considering those courses usually have labs, you might enjoy it.  As far as drawing the circuit, not so easy to do.  Nobody seems to have thought of producing a program to make it easy to do.  I made such a program in the days of the Commodore 64, but Bill Gates made his Windows System too hard to work with.  

More specifically, I live a mile from Lake Superior just west of the Portage Shipping Canal.
GeoM
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