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William James and Essays on Pragmatism | 13 comments (13 topical)
Re: William James and Essays on Pragmatism (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by IntegEner on Tue Jan 03, 2006 at 11:44:59 AM MST

This belated reply to the question of "showing something that works" is probably going to meet further skepticism. Suffice it to say that I am convinced of the need for a better understanding of how wind turbine blades interact with the wind and that is all that matters to me. I write my words slowly and they are invariably read quickly, requiring much patience on my part, surely something needing tolerance in return. Here is a closer view of the same wind rotator shown on my website:



The blades here are seen as twisted due to their speed of rotation and are nothing but insubstantial sheet metal, doubled and offset so as to assist the Coanda Effect in gaining additional airflow deflection, with a long, flat trailing edge pitched to zero, even slightly negative. No one has been able yet to tell me what NACA profile this is nor why it isn't susceptible to stalling.

There is always the 30 page booklet on the Lift Principle mentioned on my website, offered specially right here and right now for free upon sending an e-mail message with an address for the mailing of it, even outside the States. (The address information is deleted from our files upon completion of the shipment.) It is a good start in seeing the Newtonian Principle as described in some detail and really quite worth while. No need to click on the PayPal button but send off your message soon.

See comments made elsewhere on this thread and also on the recent "How to avoid stalling" thread for more detail. It is not so difficult to understand that it is airflow deflection and only airflow deflection that creates a driving force on a blade moving faster than the wind and made amenable to calculation with straightforward equations such as the Bent Air Law (as is described in some detail in the booklet mentioned above).

Does anyone need to see how I clamp the aluminum sheet metal pieces from the 4 inch (100 mm.) wide rolls of roof flashing in the hardware store to a counter edge corner and back it with a 5/16" diameter wooden dowel in order to start the bending of the leading edge? It isn't fair (and often quite persnickety) to tell me that I am doing something wrong when what I am doing works so well!

Thin blades for lift-based rotors rule!

Anthony C.
IntegEner-W
www.integener.com

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Re: William James and Essays on Pragmatism (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by TomW on Tue Jan 03, 2006 at 11:50:17 AM MST

Anthony;

I do like the look of those.

However;

I made some PVC blades that spun like crazy in the slightest breeze, very fast and smooth. Right up until you attempted to extract any power.

I see you only have these on a "bearing". Have you tried pulling any power from them yet?

Cheers.

TomW

Without fools, you could not look intelligent. There is no knowledge without questions.


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Re: William James and Essays on Pragmatism (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by IntegEner on Tue Jan 03, 2006 at 08:23:56 PM MST

The purpose of this work is to apply for a state grant from the energy commission and no one seems to want to commit themselves quite yet to calling this is a bummer. It is easier to put a generator on a verticals device and so this has been done (see below). The blades are of the same ultra-thin, sail-like, doubled, and offset design. The one has been used to reconfigure the other with good results for both. I pursue this with great vigor. For 10 mph winds and above (measured with a Kestrel 2000 hand held wind meter) the three phase 3.5" diameter axial flux generator mounted on it just below the platform lights the LED lights. It also has enough power and startup torque for me to consider connecting instead a small 6 watt bicycle generator that I have to the shaft without mechanical advantage.

Within the context of 3 foot diameter blades near ground level the above horizontals rotor certainly outperforms the well known 22" diameter decorative old time farm windmill rotors we often see here in the yards of homes with their 12 blades.



I think all this speaks for itself, something that satisfies small needs for power that people find easy and inexpensive to buy.

Anthony C.
IntegEner-W
www.integener.com

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