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two phase in series? | 13 comments (13 topical, editorial)
Re: two phase in series? (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by Clifford on Sun Dec 4th, 2005 at 12:45:17 PM MST
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With the same number of magnets and coils, you still have a single phase stator.

consider wiring every other coil backwards.... (Inside-outside)-(outside-inside)-(inside-outside)

or winding every other coil in the opposite direction....

that way you can connect your "North" and "South" coils together without any problem.

Somebody else will have to calculate whether it is a good idea to wire all 32 coils in series.

As I understand it, the "cogging" is less if you wire in 3 phase rather than in single phase.  

I think I've also seen where people have effectively overlapped coils for 3 phase...  For example, rather than using 32 coils and 32 magnets, using 96 coils with the 32 magnets.  Of course, you may loose some proximity to the magnets if one isn't careful.  

Not sure what you would get by squishing the coils and doing 64 coils side by side, but it might be an interesting experiment (which you could, of course, simulate with 2 or 4 coils on your test machine).  I think in that case, you would have to rectify each phase separately as you would technically have 2 independent phases.



Re: two phase in series? (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by electrondady1 on Sun Dec 4th, 2005 at 03:10:12 PM MST
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hello again clifford,
 if you read the responce to jerry's post you will be able to see were i'm at with my experiments.
 about a year ago a fellow(sorry no link or name) responded to one of windsuff ed's posts showing how he had created overlapping coils by glueing plastic tubeing side by side to form the stator. once it was setup he cut a slot in each tube and used the cavity to retain the legs of his coils .
 i thought it was kinda' slick. and wanted to give it a try.
 he just wrapped  the copper in every other tube, first clockwise and then counterclockwise so that two coil legs shared the same space like an automotive alternator. then for the next phase he did the same thing with the rest of the tubing .
no soldering and no squeezing involved . and the result was, the stator was pretty much solid copper!  

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Re: two phase in series? (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by Clifford on Sun Dec 4th, 2005 at 05:45:23 PM MST
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Yes...

I need to start running some of my own experiments.  But, I thought it would be good to start simple too.

Here is the alternator that I had seen a while ago with 3 phases / magnet.  Perhaps it is the same one you are refering to.

http://www.windstuffnow.com/main/alt_from_scratch.htm

Hopefully I'll at least have my first "exer-gen" up and running soon (starting with stock 12V bicycle generators, but who knows where I'll end up).

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post-apocalyptic style rotor (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by electrondady1 on Sun Dec 4th, 2005 at 09:05:12 PM MST
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is that not a thing of beauty! and such a precise devise. i'd love to see the wave form this creature produces. could be scary.

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Re: post-apocalyptic style rotor (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by electrondady1 on Sun Dec 4th, 2005 at 09:46:34 PM MST
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it's really not as bad as it looks! the mags are actualy under size and fit within a specific space

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