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moving out of Canada, lots of stuff for sale | 67 comments (67 topical, editorial)
Re: moving out of Canada, lots of stuff for sale (3.00 / 0) (#21)
by troy on Wed Jun 1st, 2005 at 11:16:39 AM MST
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Jacques,

Sorry to hear of your troubles, but not entirely surprised.  I lived in Ontario (an hour east of Toronto) for almost five years.  I did eventually become a landed imigrant, but it took heroic amounts of time, patience and no small quantity of money.  The ironic part is that even the immigration officials admitted that this was a slam dunk example (no criminal history, Canadian wife, US husband, everything in order, etc, etc, etc), but was still tedious beyond description.  And that was pre-911...

So now we're back in the US and much happier for it.  I wish you the best, but think you could get a terrific education for your son on U.S. soil.  

But every situation has its own complexities, and you're a pretty sophisticated decision maker so I leave it for you to do what is best in your family's interest.

Finest regards,

troy



Re: moving out of Canada, lots of stuff for sale (3.00 / 0) (#26)
by jacquesm (j@ww.com- I run a whitelist, add 'stjoes' to msg) on Wed Jun 1st, 2005 at 11:53:47 AM MST
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Thank you Troy, it's amazing how many people have popped up out of the woodworks in the last couple of days with similar experiences.


The interesting bit is that 'true' Canadians are of the opinion that their country is very easy to get in to. I wonder where they get that impression because it simply is not true.



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Re: moving out of Canada, lots of stuff for sale (3.00 / 0) (#29)
by rotornuts on Wed Jun 1st, 2005 at 12:28:38 PM MST
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Something to consider is the fact that you are in the east. I mean no offence to easterners as I was born in Ottawa and my mother lives in Nova Scotia. Aside from British Columbia ,which is it's own worst nightmare, I find the eastern provinces to be exceedingly beurocratic(funny that word has taken on such a derogatory slant). I've been in and out of Alberta from BC for several years now and find Alberta a far different place in which to deal with goverment, even at the federal level. The regional federal employees here seem to have a somewhat better attitude and as you've pointed out that's the real problem. The culture of the unwilling civil servant has taken hold at several levels of goverment in much of this country which is a bleeding shame for my kids but so far... I have been having fair success at most levels here in Alberta. I don't know if immigration applications are processed at regional centers or if they all go to Ottawa but representatives from a different region may be more helpfull.

I recall when Canada's new Immigration policy came into effect a while back, an NGO decided to take the list of Nobel prize winners and see if they would qualify. Appearently the results were along the lines of 10 - 15% would qualify under todays rules.

Frankly I think this country has rode it's reputation into the dirt along time ago and those in control just can't see it. We have expected that our successes during the 40's to late 60's should carry us forever.

Mike
Edmonton Alberta Canada

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Re: moving out of Canada, lots of stuff for sale (3.00 / 0) (#30)
by jacquesm (j@ww.com- I run a whitelist, add 'stjoes' to msg) on Wed Jun 1st, 2005 at 12:56:41 PM MST
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Hey Mike,


That's interesting stuff about Nobel prize winners, but I wouldn't even begin to class myself in that league, I'm just a handyman, not much more than that.


The decision is not even made in Canada !! Canada has several immigration centers, in Buffalo, Berlin and a bunch of other places abroad. There simply is no procedure whereby you can start working here under a work permit and then transfer that into a residence, the only thing you can do is pretend you never were in Canada and act as if you are immigrating from abroad. It's the most backward system I have ever seen.


Ostensibly this is to avoid people using the work permit as a way to immigrate, but what better way to asses who does or does not qualify for citizenship or landed immigrant status. My tax bill - which is quite hefty - tells them all they need to know as far as I'm concerned.


When I started working here we never even thought of immigration, but after a few months of contstant air travel it was pretty clear that something had to be done about it sooner or later.


And in theory Canada is very cooperative in this, it's just that in practice they are not.
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