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non conductors | 21 comments (21 topical, editorial)
Re: non conductors (3.00 / 0) (#14)
by electrondady1 on Fri Jun 3rd, 2005 at 12:40:08 PM MST
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ungrounded ,dam, i was really hopeing the copper tubing idea would make me a wealthy man and save the planet.  the lines of magnetic flux are vertical and are crossing the coil as it moves horizontaly through them, if the long side of the copper strap/ribbon is parallel to the flux lines it causes more eddy currents to occur in the metal. the eddy currents are varyations /fluxuations of electrical energy, that are nonlinear, unuseable, heatinducing and disruptive to the flow of electrons we are attempting to induce?

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Re: non conductors (3.00 / 0) (#16)
by kitno455 on Fri Jun 3rd, 2005 at 01:40:43 PM MST
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yes. but more importantly, eddy currents are heat producing, and hot wire has higher resistance than cool wire. wire with higher resistance makes more heat. hot wire has higher resistance than cool wire. wire with higher resistance makes more heat....

oh crap. recursion :)

allan

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Re: non conductors (3.00 / 0) (#19)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Fri Jun 3rd, 2005 at 10:36:06 PM MST
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... the lines of magnetic flux are vertical and are crossing the coil as it moves horizontaly through them, if the long side of the copper strap/ribbon is parallel to the flux lines it causes more eddy currents to occur in the metal.

Think of the magnetic field as a beam of light.

If the beam of light hits a broad surface you get a lot of eddy currents.  If it hits a narrow one you get few.

Your wire has to be pretty much at right angles to the field lines one way.  So if you imagine you've got a field "shining" onto the table in front of you, your wire might be lying, say, left-to-right and moving, say, front-to-back.  So far so good.

But if your wire is a strap you still have a choice:  Stand it on edge, or lay it flat.

If you stand it on edge the field "shines" on a very narrow cross-section.  Very little eddy currents.  If you lay it flat it "shines" on a broad surface.  Lots of eddy currents.  So when you wind with strip you line it up so the field goes along the broad surface rather then penetrating it - the "standing on edge" orientation in your table example.

Turning a given amount of round copper wire into a pipe makes the surface "seen" by the field broader.  So you get more eddy current losses, while the amount of generation remains the same.  But with that hollow in the middle you can pack less copper in your slots, so you get less current generated.  Lower gen and higher losses at the same time - phoey!  You have to cool it a LOT - and use stronger magnets or more of them - to make up for that.

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Re: non conductors (3.00 / 0) (#21)
by electrondady1 on Sun Jun 12th, 2005 at 06:52:11 PM MST
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  parallel is less eddy currents.

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