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elevated weight as storage for generator? | 26 comments (26 topical, editorial)
Re: elevated weight as storage for generator? (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by thunderhead (mail me from my homepage!) on Fri Sep 16th, 2005 at 03:15:40 AM MST
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How do you define "small"?  If you have a 100,000 gallon water tower that is 150 feet tall, that is about 22 tons of water raised about 46 metres.  The total energy is about 2 3/4 kWh - a bit more than two of my 100Ah Sonnenschein AGMs.

My AGMs cost UK13 (about $23) each, off eBay: but even if they'd been new, they'd still have cost a lot less than a 100,000 gallon water tower.

They also weigh about 40kg each, instead of the 40-odd tons that your water tower is going to weigh when it's full.

I suspect your water tower weighs and costs about a thousand times as much as my batteries.

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Re: elevated weight as storage for generator? (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by Fiddlehead44 on Fri Sep 16th, 2005 at 04:26:23 AM MST
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Another problem with water storage is winter freeze-up.
Insulated pipes and storage as well as an available supply
during winter. Fiddlehead44

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Re: elevated weight as storage for generator? (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by Fiddlehead44 on Fri Sep 16th, 2005 at 04:28:11 AM MST
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Another problem with water storage is winter freeze-up.
Insulated pipes and storage as well as an available supply
during winter. Fiddlehead44

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Re: elevated weight as storage for generator? (3.00 / 0) (#15)
by pyrocasto (pyrocasto at hotmail dot com) on Fri Sep 16th, 2005 at 11:22:19 AM MST
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Well yes small was not plausable for the average family. I think a block of lead or something of the sort may work better. I for one, do agreee and will stick with batteries.

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Re: elevated weight as storage for generator? (3.00 / 0) (#18)
by benjamindees (fieldBLAHlines@deesconsulting.com (remove BLAH)) on Fri Sep 16th, 2005 at 08:19:06 PM MST
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Good point.  But you're off by an order of magnitude.

 100,000 gallons raised an average of 75 ft is:

 100,000 * 8.3 lbs * 32 ft/s^2 * 75 ft = 1,992,000,000 lb*ft^2/s^2 = 23.3 kWh

That's equivalent to about 17 220 Ah, 6 volt batteries, which, new, are anywhere from $75-$100 each.  Assuming you only discharge them halfway, that makes 35 batteries, which is like $2600, not including shipping.

Your point is still valid but, at the same time, for some people it may really be easier or more beneficial to build a storage tank on top of a hill than to purchase batteries.

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Re: elevated weight as storage for generator? (3.00 / 0) (#19)
by Norm (peppysue@suite224.net) on Sat Sep 17th, 2005 at 03:16:47 PM MST
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I'm on your side...what is the potential in one
of your batteries? That is how high and how fast
could it lift 2 tons if hooked up to an electric
motor ant used 10 percent of its capacity...
that ought to get some people to appreciate how
much energy is stored in just one battery!
                     ( :>) Norm.
( :>) Norm
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