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I need a "lift" and your help | 38 comments (38 topical, editorial)

Re: I need a "lift" and your help (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by cr8zy1van (salsa117@hotmail.com) on Wed Sep 28th, 2005 at 01:09:01 PM MST
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I couldnt find the exact name for this, but I have seen these used in the past. Not sure how effective they are

Basically, a waterwheel, with scoops/buckets attached to one side. As the waterwheel rotates, it drags cups/buckets that fill with water. These then deposit the water into a collector one cup at a time, a few inches/feet higher. Of course there may be more effective options out there, but this has been used for years.. Apart from a functional water lifter, it would also be a conversation piece!:)

Re: I need a "lift" and your help (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by MaxFlow on Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 07:54:04 AM MST
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Useing the above diagram, instead of useing buckets, you can wrap a spiral of flexable pipe around the wheel, and each time it goes back around it pushes water back up through the tube, at the axel you would have the exit point of the flow.
You could use the plastic pipe used for diverting gutter water, I know it comes in 4 inch diameters around here, if you have enough flow force, just wrap another concentric winding and get double the flow.
Do you have a picture that you can upload of the stream, closest to where you want to divert it.
PS, someone might say that you would have to have the water piped out of the axel, but thats not nessesary if on the outflow side of the wheel the axel is longer to the brace, you could have a collecter and diverter between this.
If your interrested in this thought let me know, I'll draw you up a picture of what I mean.
Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. Archimedes
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Re: I need a "lift" and your help (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by MaxFlow on Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 08:05:39 AM MST
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sorry didnt see Wild in Alaskas link, http://www.ata.org.au/articles/65watwel.htm, before posting.
Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. Archimedes
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Re: I need a "lift" and your help (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by Linda on Sat Oct 1st, 2005 at 01:02:11 PM MST
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MaxFlow,
Thanks for your help, and yes I sure would appreciate a sketch. This "spiral" pump sounds like it operates on the same principle as a "sling" pump, have you heard of this? I ordered a sling pump and tried it and had only one problem, the pump is secured at only one point (up stream) and then it floats free in the creek and rotates. With each rotation the hose inside takes a gulp of water followed by a gulp of air. The pump was able to lift water to about 8 feet which was great, but since the device floated free it would wave back and forth in the creek bed, bottoming out and not staying parallel to the flow thereby stopping operation. If I can build a device that will be firmly anchored on each side of the creek, using the paddle wheel method I can then hold it secure. I'll look for a picture of the creek for you. I would go take one now, but have misplaced my cable for uploading my pics from my camera, How aggravating! Where can I go for detailed designs on a spiral pump? I'll check out the links that you and others have posted.
Thanks, so much,
Linda
Linda
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Re: I need a "lift" and your help (3.00 / 0) (#35)
by MaxFlow on Fri Oct 7th, 2005 at 07:46:34 PM MST
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Sorry I haven't had alot of time to be on the net for awhile, and it doesnt seem like I'm going to have alot of time in the near future, (taking care of disabled parent with MS, battening down the hatches getting ready for winter, and trying to get my business off the ground, but I'll try to get a picture drawn up for you, if you still would like one.
Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. Archimedes
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Re: I need a "lift" and your help (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by Linda on Sat Oct 1st, 2005 at 12:42:50 PM MST
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Thanks dcr8zy1van for the diagram, it is somewhat like what I'd envisioned. I like the concept of combining this with the spiral pump and will persue this further. Linda
Linda
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