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Box Fan Motor Conversion | 17 comments (17 topical, editorial)
Re: Box Fan Motor Conversion (3.00 / 0) (#14)
by johnlm on Tue Feb 21st, 2006 at 09:38:52 AM MST
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Zap,
Sure wish you would use smaller pics.  With the large pics the post is now so spread out (width)  it takes me too long to go through all this on dial up.

I tried the 4 mag/ 6 pole approach and it does reduce cogging over a 6 mag/6 pole arrangement if the mags are close such as you have in your last pic.  But you have the disadvantage of 1/3 of your coils doing nothing at any given point in time.  I was impressed that on the white fan using a total of 12 neos (2 ea per pole X 6 poles ; 1 X 1/2 X 1/8 inch neos) I only ended up with about 1.25 oz ft of cogging - can easily be turned using only thumb and index finger.  But then I think the gap from the mags to the stator is about 4 MM.

You havent given any details about the resistance of the windings (or maybe I missed it) but if you are able to light up a standard 12 V tail light bulb the windings must be fairly low in resistance.  Almost looks like awg 24 wire on the stator.

John

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Re: Box Fan Motor Conversion (3.00 / 0) (#15)
by zap (bell47g5a at comcast dot net) on Tue Feb 21st, 2006 at 12:54:03 PM MST
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Sorry about the pic size John, I have become a little spoiled with broadband.  I try to post all mine at 640x480 so I guess you're talking about file size?  That last pic was one ghurd had sent back to me after he had doctored it up to show where to cut the laminates and I made the mistake of not taking it through psp before posting... sorry.

I wish I had some different magnets so I could try 6 on the armature but as you can see there's not much room left using 4.

I unwrapped one of the original windings and that one was indeed 3 in hand, about 96 turns, different figures from all my meters but looks to be about .3 ohm.  These are about 27ga, 26ga, and maybe 26.5ga?  Shorting the meter reads .5 ohm with meter leads and alligator test leads. Then to the coil for a total of .8 ohm.

I wrapped the empty pole with some old coils from a tube yoke from an old monitor, 4 in hand, 27 ga or so, 100 turns and that came out to .5 ohm but haven't done any spin tests yet.

The 15v and lighting the tail light was using 2 of the coils, the 12 and 6 oclock and like I said, not sure about the rpm.

zap
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Re: Box Fan Motor Conversion (3.00 / 0) (#16)
by ghurd on Wed Feb 22nd, 2006 at 07:59:45 AM MST
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Zap,
Was the 96 turns, 3 in hand, for all 3 wires?  I mean was the green wire less turns?
Going from 300 turns to 400 turns, and wired in star, cut in should be ~130 RPMs. I think.
G-

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Re: Box Fan Motor Conversion (3.00 / 0) (#17)
by zap (bell47g5a at comcast dot net) on Wed Feb 22nd, 2006 at 11:17:46 AM MST
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G- on the coil I unwound all the wires stayed neck and neck, they all had the same number of turns, which is why I referred to them as "3 in hand".  The only reason I unwound that one was because I'd cut it's leads a little short at where the "buried ends" come out from under the rest of the coil.  It left very little exposed for further hook up.
zap
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