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First project | 26 comments (26 topical, editorial)
Re: First project (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by johnlm on Wed Apr 12th, 2006 at 09:12:02 PM MST
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Increasing the speed of the magnets past the coils without increasing the number of magnets or the number of coils or the RPMs  will not increase the output power.  

Johnlm

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Re: First project (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by RP (russp located-at fidnet (dot) com) on Wed Apr 12th, 2006 at 10:15:37 PM MST
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Magnets and coils don't care about rpm only the speed of the flux change across the coils.  Rpm is one way to increase the rate of flux change, another is to increase the radius that the magnets are mounted at.  If the magnets move faster past the coils there will be more power generated.

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Re: First project (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by RP (russp located-at fidnet (dot) com) on Wed Apr 12th, 2006 at 10:17:51 PM MST
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Whoops!  There will be a higher VOLTAGE.  There will be the same number of magnets passing/revolution so the power will NOT increase.

Sorry about that...

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Re: First project (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by kuchila on Thu Apr 13th, 2006 at 06:22:48 AM MST
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Rp,

     From what you posted I get the idea that if I put the magnets on say, a 20 inch rim, out near or on the edge, place a few, say 3 or 4 coils out there on the frame rails and add more magnets, say 1 every inch or so that this may work ? Remember, this is a 3 wheeler and as such it has at least 2 frame rails per side of each rear tire, meaning I could, in theory, place 8 coils on each rear wheel, using both the inside and outside rails. I know, your sitting there wondering what this crazy old hillbilly is talking about so to muddy things up even more, this is a 12 speed bike converted to a 3 wheeler, something I was told couldn't be done. Each rear wheel has 2 rails as support shaped like an inverted "U". Braking is on the front 24 inch rim.

     Now I've heard from more knowlegable people on reasons why my original idea would not work, many of which were of the opinion that too few magnets and coils and not enough speed of magnets passing coils, placing magnets on the outer rim of the back tire and adding more coils sounds like a cure. More magnets, more coils and greater speed should mean more power.

 Bill

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Re: First project (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by RP (russp located-at fidnet (dot) com) on Thu Apr 13th, 2006 at 08:55:34 PM MST
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I say give it a try with 4 magnets and one coil.  Once you've something, then add more coils and magnets to get more.  One thing to consider about Neo magnets on the rims is they may collect metal off the road!!

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