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Death of the Lead-acid battery | 30 comments (30 topical, editorial)
Re: Death of the Lead-acid battery (3.00 / 0) (#24)
by Nando (nando37-at-tx-dot-rr-dot-com Correct theanti-spam) on Wed Sep 12th, 2007 at 08:42:08 PM MST
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RESONANT circuits call for oscillatory circuits that may be half sine wave or even full sine waves.

In either case, the resonant needs to generate the sine wave that HAS TO BE much greater than the basic voltage, that in this case is 3500 volts peak, which may force a half sine wave of at least 50 % higher than the basic voltage.

You can see a patent for such ZVR , Down load the patent 5057986.pdf from my files.

May be you could give us a more defined feedback.

and too many high power and high voltage devices.

Nando


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Re: Death of the Lead-acid battery (3.00 / 0) (#25)
by joestue on Wed Sep 12th, 2007 at 10:33:33 PM MST
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my bad.

What I'm saying is that using a capacitor @3500V to drive a car is no less efficient than current 250 volt battery systems.

Whether you use IGBTs, GTOs, Thyristors, RCTs, MCTs or asymmetrical SCRs it doesn't matter. it's relatively the same at all voltage ranges, none of this has an order of magnitude greater performance. Keep in mind there is a lot of new technology being factored into the mix, 50Amp, 1200 volt silicon carbide diodes are now available.

This paper describes a 2.5KV, 30 amp inverter:
http://www.ece.rutgers.edu/~jzhao/papers/MSF-2004-MPS-Switching.pdf

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Re: Death of the Lead-acid battery (3.00 / 0) (#26)
by Nando (nando37-at-tx-dot-rr-dot-com Correct theanti-spam) on Thu Sep 13th, 2007 at 09:56:59 AM MST
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More or less efficiency was not considered.

What is being considered is the storage capacity of a battery and/or a large capacitor to supply enough energy to "move" the car for about 300 miles.

The conversion of the available power to the "energy mover = motor" is what is considered in regards of difficulties, easy to convert and/or the problems in regards to the conversion of a high voltage to the "energy mover" requirements.

The efficiencies of one type to the other may considered, like about 33% for the gas engine to the "motor + conversion" that could reach around 80 %.

One needs to examine the overall loop efficiency, from generating the energy ( well etc or hydro or nuclear or even coal or gas generators) to the ultimate use of such energy "material " and its costs.

Also the storage capacity versus volume and weight of such storage.

The Hybrid system, large Battery + small gas engine is one step to improve the efficiency of the system compared to the gas engine alone which could reach around 40 to 50 % or maybe a bit more.

A single large capacitor energy storage from the generating the energy to the energy going into the wheels to move the vehicle could reach something like an overall 60 to 65 + % efficiency.

I could extend myself here for a long rant, better stop.

Nando

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