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Forklift Battery Question | 13 comments (13 topical, editorial)
Re: Forklift Battery Question (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Nando (nando37-at-tx-dot-rr-dot-com Correct theanti-spam) on Sun Sep 9th, 2007 at 11:38:49 AM MST
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RCpilot:

The Desulfator you have is for small batteries (car size range)for 1500 AH the unit will have to work for months before you notice something positive.

Desulfators for high current (ah) batteries, do require much higher power than the 0.6 or so watts that are presently used by these small desulfators.

For 1500 AH, the desulfator needs to be around 10 to 20 watts capable with 500 amps discharge capacity (minimum) to deeply penetrate the large plates and to be able to overtake the large internal capacitance of the batteries and hit the plate with reasonable fast peak current.

Nando

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Re: Forklift Battery Question (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by RCpilot (rcpilot (at) rollanet (dot) org) on Sun Sep 9th, 2007 at 01:18:20 PM MST
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Thanks for the comments Nando, how did you know what size Desulfator I have? But, you must be psychic as I do indeed have a small model. I have seen the killer circuits on the Desulfator web site and just haven't had time to try to build one. If the little one I have will do Anything at all and do it in lets say three or four months, I have the time. At least someone believes in them! Kelly
Pray every day!
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Re: Forklift Battery Question (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by Nando (nando37-at-tx-dot-rr-dot-com Correct theanti-spam) on Sun Sep 9th, 2007 at 01:47:04 PM MST
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RCPilot:

I have designed them, several decades ago, for very heavy AH battery banks.

I am quite familiar with the present available desulfator sold in Internet which is a copy of a simple pulser ( LM555) with a 330 Uh choke with a 2200 microhenry choke to isolate the 330 uh choke pulse from the power supply for the pulser section.

They are available from 20 to 120 dollars and most of them have the same basic principle and it seems that they have not discovered the circuits for high power which implies to have a lot more of technical knowledge to make them.

Nando

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Re: Forklift Battery Question (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by bob g on Sun Sep 9th, 2007 at 03:56:36 PM MST
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its not that i don't believe in desulfators its just that if you take care of your batteries and charge them properly, fully and equalize when needed you won't need some technology that may or may not work.

alot of folks think that sulfation is a bad thing, when the reality is it is a normal chemical process that takes place when a battery discharges. What drives me nuts about the hype surrounding desulfactors is the claim that sulfation is bad for your battery.

hard and crystallized sulfation is what you get if you allow partially charged plates with their normal sulfation sit for an extented amount of time, harden and crystallize.

a desulfator should only be sought when someone has neglected their batteries to the point that normal charging, and equalization cannot break down the hardened or crystallized sulfation,, even then my bet is most of these units are worthless
and don't do anything that a controlled equalization would not have done anyway.

this is a classic case of "create the crisis (where one does not exist) and provide the solution (a solution you can make money with).

bob g

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