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More Climate change | 43 comments (43 topical, 0 editorial)
Re: More Climate change (3.00 / 0) (#33)
by wdyasq on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 12:26:39 AM MST
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Best reports I have seen say 'peak' with hit about 2030 and plateau for ~20 years. While the peons (look in the mirror if you ware wondering of who I speak) are bracing for higher costs, the major automotive transportation companies are building plants. It is quite possible (effing sure bet) they know more than a bunch of politicians, failed ones included.

Governments have never been responsible. As far as I know they have never done anything promoting business other than war.

Politicians are quick to blame and slow to accept responsibility. One only has to glance at the 'oil situation' and see they run in a reactive rather than a pro-active mode. They get their life blood from subjecting those who are under their influence to vote for them.

One quick little observation, the government created 'environmental protection'. The blame is on the 'oil companies' for not building refineries. The 'environmental protection' agencies required the addition of MTBE to the gasoline supplies but accept no blame for it getting into the ground water. The problem was known for years before any action was taken.

It seems to me the folks promoting this warming idea are those that are profiting from the regulations and grants attached. I could be right. They may be a bunch of scoundrels. And, all political parties in the US are defiantly guilty.

I suspect any solutions will come from private industry, not government meddling.

Ron
Adventure is just bad planning." -- Roald Amundsen
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Re: More Climate change (3.00 / 0) (#36)
by finnsawyer on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 09:20:36 AM MST
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I agree with you about the solutions coming from private industry rather than the Government.  It happens that the auto companies have discovered PM motors.  They have found that if they take things such as the power steering off of the belt they get a small improvement in efficiency.  I suspect that at some point the alternator will be direct drive.  Well, with hybrids it becomes a moot point.

I've wondered in the recent past with crude oil prices near $100 per barrel what is going on at the Alberta Oil or Tar Sands.  Well, a Mining Engineer I know says the journals he reads state they are going great guns in increasing output.  Lucky Canadians.  They get to finance their Socialized Medicine at we American's expense.
GeoM
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Re: More Climate change (3.00 / 0) (#37)
by electrondady1 on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 12:22:40 PM MST
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the tar sands are under the control of american oil companies
as are the politicians the the oil companies have helped put in place .
we pay for our universal health care with our taxes.
the tar sands are at the point were thy are the greatest emitter of co2 in my nation
our prime minister and his government is in a minority position.
his popularity has fallen drastically since the climate change summit in bali
i think we will have a new government by next summer.

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