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Under 1kWh/day electricity (net) | 9 comments (9 topical, editorial)
Re: Under 1kWh/day electricity (net) (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by DamonHD (d@hd.org) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 12:15:29 AM MST
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Very interesting!  Wood is not really a goer in our very small suburban London property, but otherwise I'd be keen on it as pretty-well zero carbon.

Have you tried to estimate (a) energy consumption for heating from wood and (b) energy and CO2-emission efficiency compared to your gas heating?

Rgds

Damon

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Re: Under 1kWh/day electricity (net) (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 09:25:52 PM MST
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Wood is not really a goer in our very small suburban London property, ...

What's wrong with it?  Pellet stoves use forced air to burn the particulates and dust away to the point that the exhaust almost doesn't even smell (except the first minute or so as the stove is lighting up, before the temperature of the burning pellets is high enough).  Part of the air under-feeds the burning pellets, which put out a bunch of smoke, then the rest of the air causes the smoke to burn super-hot and extremely complete.  (The hot gases then go through a heat exchanger to heat the room air and leave the chimney at not all that much over room temperature.)

In the US the environmental agencies put big regulations on wood stoves and small ones on recent-model ultra-efficient wood stoves (which do a similar thing with hunks of wood).  But pellet stoves are just waved through.  (The particulate emissions are so low they're hard to measure.)

Stove pellets are compressed sawdust.  Hardwood pellets burn very clean.  Softwood pellets are a tad dirtier but have more energy per ton.

Have you tried to estimate (a) energy consumption for heating from wood and (b) energy and CO2-emission efficiency compared to your gas heating?

What energy are you concerned about?  The electric power for the fans, controls and igniter?  The fuel costs?  I'll try to answer if you clarify the question.

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Re: Under 1kWh/day electricity (net) (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 09:29:11 PM MST
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Hardwood pellets burn very clean.  Softwood pellets are a tad dirtier but have more energy per ton.

"Dirtier" mainly means more ash to dump.  But "a lot" is like "dump the ash pan twice in a heating season".  It's less than a cubic foot, i.e. a lot smaller than your typical wastebasket.

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Re: Under 1kWh/day electricity (net) (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by DamonHD (d@hd.org) on Sat Oct 11th, 2008 at 01:13:05 AM MST
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No good (very) local source of wood so there would be extra transport/CO2 costs, no place to store the fuel, and no space to install the stove.  Plus we are not easy to get heavy loads to with no direct road frontage.

Also we have a toddler and another baby due, so there is a fire/burn hazard, and we are in a smokeless zone so without some sort of exemption AFAIK wood burning would be forbidden.

I like wood stoves but in reality one would not be a good fit for us IMHO.

Rgds

Damon

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