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Absorber plate for diy flate-plate collector | 14 comments (14 topical, editorial)
Re: Absorber plate for diy flate-plate collector (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by mbeland on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:47:35 AM MST
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Thank, Among all the nice ideas that you propose for absorber plates, the one I prefer is the use of soffit alu sheets that are fitted to the tubes with a home-made press. I was surprised to see on your photos that you used plastic pipes inside the collectors. It sure would be cheaper than copper tubes but I would be scary of leaks and of low resistance to high temperatures. What is your experience? Martin
Eau, soleil, le vent
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Re: Absorber plate for diy flate-plate collector (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by GaryGary (gary@BuildItSolar.com) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 05:06:07 PM MST
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Hi,
The CPVC pipes were really just an experiment.  Nice as they are to work with, I'm not sure I would try them it for a real collector.  CPVC has limited temperature capability and the performance takes a hit because of the low tube wall conductance.

If a person were to give it a serious try, I would limit it to a single glazed vertical collector with some form of overhang above the collector to protect it from summer overheating.  Protecting the CPVC pipe from UV exposure would probably also be a good idea.  

I've thought about using PEX, which is somewhat "tougher" all around than CPVC, and the tube wall conductance is better.  For vertical space heating collectors, a serpentine tube PEX collector that uses the formed aluminum fins with the fins placed between the sun and the PEX, and something like single glazed SunTuf (which cuts out UV) might hold up for a good long time.  It would not be as efficient as commercial copper/copper collectors, but it would be so cheap you could make a lot of it.  PEX-AL-PEX has better burst pressure, and once you push it into a bend it stays holds that position -- this should make it easy to do a serpentine collector with no joints.  Somebody should try this :)

Gary
Gary gary@BuildItSolar.com www.BuildItSolar.com
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Re: Absorber plate for diy flate-plate collector (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by mbeland on Tue Feb 12th, 2008 at 05:59:25 AM MST
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For use in heating in winter, shouldn't I go for the most efficient that would be doable as a DIY in order do have any significant dent in my heating bill? Also I have read somewhere on the board that pex would suffer from the heat at the joints. I know you said no joints but between panels, there would be joints,... no? Would the temperature be low enough outside the panel to make it safe? Very interesting discussion. Martin
Eau, soleil, le vent
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Absorber plate for diy flate-plate collector | 14 comments (14 topical, 0 editorial)

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