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Policy Change for This Forum | 66 comments (66 topical, 0 editorial)
Re: Policy Change for This Forum (3.00 / 0) (#41)
by Volvo farmer on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 06:35:31 AM MST
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It's a shame you don't get in early on these and speak up before the posse has already strung a rope. Hands-off works though, if you're OK with the angry mob deciding what's appropriate. ;-)

Volvo Farmer

May you always have success in your quest to irritate those who you despise. -Ben Goode
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Re: Policy Change for This Forum (3.00 / 0) (#42)
by DanB (danb@*no spam*otherpower.com) on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 06:50:08 AM MST
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Hi Bob - yes, you're probably right.  This sort of thing is tedious and I thought I would let it run out/get an idea what the overall 'community' here thinks.

My opinion - yes, I could see a problem if lots of folks started posting diaries like this.  I felt that Boss (Bryan) wasn't too far out of line - diaries are an open sort of catagory where off topic stuff is/has always been allowed to some degree.  I  honestly - didn't read lots of Boss's stuff (its long and I have limited time) but he basically only posted a new diary once a week which didn't bother me.  things that are intolerable in my opinion (even in diaries) - foul language (again - somebody brought it up - it's against google rules and not appropriate for kids) - and any discussion of overunity.

When Bryan was up here he asked if he could post his newsletter on fieldlines and I said 'sure'.  And, after feedback from everyone here, he has evidently decided on his own accord to stop, which I think is a good choice considering.

I think it's kind of funny, I expect if most folks here could actually meet Bryan they'd find they had lots in common.  Overall I think we have a large community with a common interest here, I think diaries could be a nice place to share about other stuff in life.

What bothers me more than his diary around here...  postings of unrealistic ideas, intolerance, name calling, rudeness etc.  But it is an open discussion board and all this stuff is typical I think.  TomW and other editors do a pretty good job of keeping it together I think.

I have proven myself many times over to be a 'pushover' and too tolerant/too patient with 'rogue' users.  Bryan is not a troll - or anything like JCP etc, so folks who made those comparisons/accusations were just dead wrong.  I hope he continues to post here but more specifically about his RE projects.

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Re: Policy Change for This Forum (3.00 / 0) (#43)
by Volvo farmer on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 08:43:50 AM MST
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It appears everything has worked out for the best, so perhaps your approach was appropriate for the situation.

Despite only one diary a week, the followups were almost daily. 11 in 14 days. Those surfing the "recent activity" page, got an eye full of BMN every morning, which is probably why the cards fell where they did.

Thanks for weighing in, it's good to know what the Admin thinks, so as not to get crosswise to your wishes.

 

Volvo Farmer

May you always have success in your quest to irritate those who you despise. -Ben Goode
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Re: Policy Change for This Forum (3.00 / 0) (#44)
by JW on Thu Mar 20th, 2008 at 05:27:06 PM MST
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"Rest assured that we are reading this thread up here on the mountain, are discussing it, and that we feel your pain. We are also completely swamped with building wind turbine kits, writing a book, and giving seminars to teach people how to build wind turbines in exotic foreign countries like Nicaragua and Wisconsin. Without volunteer editors like TomW (how many years has it been now, Tom?) we'd have shut this board down years ago. --DAN F (ADMIN)"

"Basically, any policy changes here (like starting to clamp down on diary content) mean more work for all of us. We'd rather that people would just get along. Brian R doesn't have any special mojo here, but he's a rare graduate of one of our wind turbine construction seminars so we know him personally, and as was pointed out, he's a 'doer' and not just a talker.--DAN F (ADMIN)"
This is why I stated earlier " If Admin does nothing I think its okay.-JW"

"What bothers me more than his diary around here... postings of unrealistic ideas, intolerance, name calling, rudeness etc.-DanB"

"I have proven myself many times over to be a 'pushover' and too tolerant/too patient with 'rogue' users. Bryan is not a troll - or anything like JCP etc, so folks who made those comparisons/accusations were just dead wrong. I hope he continues to post here but more specifically about his RE projects.-DanB"

Now, its very clear that we are not getting off that easy.

As I said way-earler, Im sorry, but when any dialog causes the systematic board wide reaction, theres only one debackel that one could come to remember. Yes thats right the 'jcp' debackel'.

But seriously, TomW, is a really good and fair guy.
 Perhaps, ' I ' meant to say, Bryan 'was acting like a jcp' but didnt mean to imply 'that he was one'....

Honestly it was my gut feeling, that posting's such as this could occur, if bryan, wasnt at least warned, "hay watch out you can start a fire with that thing!" Because I was there, I knew, that its wise to point out, that sometimes you have to be thick skinned around here.

The point im trying to make is that, we all disagree from time to time, as we take time to get to know one another, we do find out we all have much in common, that is worth something. When I entered this phorum, it was at the height of the so-called jcp-Debacle' And I saw DanB get seriously pissed off at JCP...

So I can totally understand how I could be dead wrong about Bryan.

 Just remember I did not start this thread.

 But when someone implies 'the goverment giveth and taketh awathh'

 this french-kissing of political beliefs, is not only mis-guided but also quite arrogant AND misleading, By Boss.

 As TomW eludes too, 'anyone with some common sense', could see that those remarks, were 'too politically charged' Ov, coarse that type of reaction is going to happen.

Personally I think Bryan is a good man.

I have interacted with him before and I think he's a good fellow...

It does take quite-abit to pipe-up and say 'I will cool it'.

 Something I find strange is that The only reason I made the jcp remark, is because Boss was considering taking a leave of absence or something like that. Like saying this is your last chance to interact with me. This was on one of his first postings, like saying, you guys could never get me.

 Anyhow, we all decided here that he should hang around.

 I think He will.

Just for the record, I consider myself more a 'cowboy' than a 'Rogue'  :)  

You guys really shouldnt have to get into all this, 'the dan's' ,

 I just wanted say, members/user's that I have disagreed with in the past, are now people that I consider friends Like TomW and others. Ya, I made an effort, but it was woth it.

cheer's

JW


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Re: Policy Change for This Forum (3.00 / 0) (#45)
by WindHarvester on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 02:00:20 PM MST
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Good post Mr. Cool Pants!

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Re: Policy Change for This Forum (3.00 / 0) (#46)
by TomW on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 03:04:23 PM MST
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Lonnie;


Good post Mr. Cool Pants!

Simply because you decided to be a jerk...

Who are you referring to? Or are you just stirring up the muck [again]?

I just went and read all 50, wow, yes all 50 of your comments on this forum. I also read your One Diary and 2 semi topical story posts. Thats 2 years of posts.

You can find all this users' comments HERE to see for yourself.

Pretty funny, most of the comments are like this. Smart alec remarks.

Time to shine the light on the roaches again, I guess.

Do you RE or just stir things up?

Time to put up or shut up. What RE things do you have going on that you would like to share? Oh, none?

Or you can whine to DanB that I am destroying his business [again].

Just curious what your purpose is here?

I guess the world needs Agent Provacatuers, too but I think we have plenty here.

Before you attack me [or anyone] again, I suggest you browse through my 5+ years of posts and catalog the true diversity of topics including my comments, stories and Diaries about stuff I do.

Frankly, I am sick of it.

TomW

"Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned."--Mark Twain
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Re: Policy Change for This Forum (3.00 / 0) (#50)
by WindHarvester on Fri Mar 21st, 2008 at 06:16:02 PM MST
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My comment was not directed towards you Tom so please keep your belittling insults to yourself!

Hope your over your flue and have a Happy Easter!

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