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Kaplan Turbine | 10 comments (10 topical, editorial)
Re: Kaplan Turbine (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by hvirtane (hannu_markus_virtanen(at)yahoo(dot)com) on Tue Mar 4th, 2008 at 01:28:15 AM MST
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I know a small self made Kaplan turbine,
which is in use with a friend of mine.
It is about 1 kW and with high technologies
such as automatically adjusted vanes.

The flow head is there low, a few meters.

I think that the good performance with
that machine is because of the really
high level workmanship of the machine.
In general as far as I know it is easier
to make a crossflow turbine than a well
working Kaplan turbine.

I will ask my friend to check this discussion
and about further details of his Kaplan.

- Hannu



Re: Kaplan Turbine (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by Flux on Tue Mar 4th, 2008 at 02:55:10 AM MST
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Yes hannu I think you are right. To produce any satisfactory small reaction turbine you have the effects of scale working against you.

The engineering needs to be a high standard, bearing friction, clearances surface finish and the problems of blocking the small dimensions are all a big factor.

Impulse turbines are not really low head devices and are not used as such in large sizes but they can still be efficient at low head if you can build a low speed alternator. They seem much more practical in the low flow region ( 100 gpm and below).

For anything above 6" diameter then the reaction turbine should work out the better option if you can build it carefully.

Flux

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Re: Kaplan Turbine (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by WXYZCIENCE on Tue Mar 4th, 2008 at 09:40:13 AM MST
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Hannu, the engineering of the impeller by Bombardia is what I am using. It is made of high quality stainless. The input vanes will be somewhat of a challenge because they have to be adjustable. Also the water flowing through the runner has to be very uniform.
I would be very interested in your friends design that you speak about. Thank you for your input.
Joseph.

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Re: Kaplan Turbine (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by Gog on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 at 02:02:15 AM MST
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In my own creek I would expect to see trash (long thin ferny stuff here ) building up on the gates,
 rather than the runner. Assuming there is a bit of clearance at the blade tips.
I think filtering will have to be good.

At this size ,It may be  that getting your scroll case close enough down to the runner will give you a swirl that will give
 an angle of attack that is good enough without the gates and their associated maintenance.

I suspect though ,that my idea of good enough and yours are miles apart , I'm pretty lazy.

all the best
Keith

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Re: Kaplan Turbine (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by WXYZCIENCE on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 at 10:29:35 AM MST
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Keith, thanks for your input. Debris will be a problem I agree. This is all new to me and I enjoy challenges. The fun is in the doing. Something like Calvin and Hobbs and his propeller hat.
Joseph.

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Re: Kaplan Turbine (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Wed Mar 5th, 2008 at 03:20:20 PM MST
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Look into coanda effect debris screens.  They let virtually all the water through with very little pressure or velocity loss while the debris slides off the surface without penetrating or hanging up on it.

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