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Problems with Preexisting Hydro | 14 comments (14 topical, 0 editorial)
Re: Problems with Preexisting Hydro (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by hydrosun on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:04:22 AM MST
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I've got one hydro with 15 psi and converted from the Motorcraft 70 amp alternator to the harris PM and greatly increased the output. The maximum I could get from the alternator was 10 amps at 12 volts. Now I get 8 amps at 24 volts. The difficulty of comparison is that is the amperage reading of the built in amp meter, which is notoriously inaccurate. Harris uses an inexpensive meter to make it easy to adjust the reastat to get the maximum output but isn't intended to give an accurate measurement of actual output. I have people ask if they are losing amperage in the wire because the meter at the pelton doesn't read the same as the one at the battery.  So what kind of meter are you using to determine the amperage output?
 You say you are reading 15 volts at the pelton but I didn't see a voltage at the battery. A maximum of 3 volts drop in the wire would be about 20% loss. Increasing the output at the same voltage would increase that loss. A Motorcraft alternator with the proper field and stator would slightly increase the output but I'd reccomend going to the PM if you really need more output. If the alternative is solar panels or running a gas generator it would make sense to get all you can from the hydro.
 You don't mention if you have done the checks on the nozzles to see if there are any obstructions. Or if the pressure guage is accurate. Mine seem to change over time.
Chris



Re: Problems with Preexisting Hydro (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:57:01 PM MST
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Unless you have some sort of power tap or REALLY bad insulation creating a high-resistance short along the way, the current at the battery will be the current at the alternator.  This seems unlikely.

Differences in ammeter readings indicate that one of the meters is out of calibration or otherwise inaccurate (or both of them are but differently).

At these voltages and with these insulations, wiring losses are from voltage drop, not current diversion.  Exactly the same number of electrons go into the wire as go out of it, and all but a vanishingly small number go out at the far end rather than finding some other way across.  They just don't push their way out quite as hard as they were pushed in, thanks to a "pressure drop" from "friction" on their way from one end of the wire to the other.

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Re: Problems with Preexisting Hydro (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:58:56 PM MST
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This seems unlikely.

"This" being the high-resistance short.  (It's unlikely because the heating would turn it into a low-resistance short in rather little time.)

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Problems with Preexisting Hydro | 14 comments (14 topical, 0 editorial)

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