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has any one installed a reverse osmosis system | 22 comments (22 topical, editorial)
Re: has any one installed a reverse osmosis system (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by phil b (philb7369at-no-more spam-yahoo.com) on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 08:34:45 AM MST
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Getterdone,

Using ozone is a cheap and inexpensive way to kill the bacteria and most viruses.

There is a cheaper way that most public water supplies in the US use. Chlorine.
Also, when private wells are tested and lab test indicate there is bacteria in the sample, bleach is normally recomended for treatment.

You can buy a gallon of bleach at just about any grocery store. Get the cheapest, unscented stuff you can find. If you are concerned about putting too much bleach in, buy a chlorine test kit made for swimming pools.

You can email me if you have additional questions or I will post here. I can get you or anyone all the info they need. BTW, I'm not trying to toot my own horn but I do have a lot of experience in the water/wastewater field.

Hope this helps.
Phil



Re: has any one installed a reverse osmosis system (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by getterdone on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 09:46:01 AM MST
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what is ozone process?
for now i've been just adding bleach about 1/2 cup to 350gal water.
i did not have a way to check how much i was adding though. bad idea i know. i aint dead yet.
If I were smart I'd be dangerous
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Re: has any one installed a reverse osmosis system (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by ghurd on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 10:56:39 AM MST
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Phil,  You are up wind.  Toot all you want.  :-)

Ozone...  Long story as short as I can.

Off grid aquarium.  Air pump (AC) on when possible. Inverter losses were more than the pump.
So I bought some of the oxyganator things used by fishermen.  They use 1/2 a drop of 12VDC.
But 10 hours later half the fish were dead.
They tell me the tank smelled like ozone, but I don't know what ozone smells like.  Tested it in a 99.9% closed gallon jar for a day, and it almost smells like bleach to me.  Strong smell, whatever it is.
Expensive way to kill fish is all I know.  Don't put one near fish!

Does this thing make ozone?
Seems like a cheap, simple, low power way to do it if it does.
There is an animated gif (???), and that is how the bubbles look.  Lots of tiny bubbles, and a few large bubbles.
http://www.keepfishalive.com/index.php

G-

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Re: has any one installed a reverse osmosis system (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by TomW on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 11:12:46 AM MST
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G-;

I find ozone and bleach to smell very similar.

We had one of those ionic breeze air purifier things awhile it smelled faintly of bleach while running and it produces ozone.

Wife read online somewhere that ozone was not healthy so its in storage now.

Tom

"Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned."--Mark Twain
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Re: has any one installed a reverse osmosis system (3.00 / 0) (#15)
by getterdone on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 05:20:50 PM MST
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if thease things are for live wells, why did your fish die?
If I were smart I'd be dangerous
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Re: has any one installed a reverse osmosis system (3.00 / 0) (#17)
by richhagen (richhagen (a t) Juno.com) on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 08:15:13 PM MST
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Well, the literature indicates that it gets the oxygen from the water itself.  The basic way to do that is electrolysis.  This gives off two parts hydrogen gas and one part oxygen.  The device would likely have two sets of mesh or wires held at different potentials in close proximity to split the water.  If that is how it works, and there was any sodium chloride or other chlorides dissolved in the water, you would be making a bit of chlorine gas with it as well.  Probably not that good for fish, and thats what gives bleach its smell.  Rich
'A Joule saved is a Joule made'
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Re: has any one installed a reverse osmosis system (3.00 / 0) (#21)
by phil b (philb7369at-no-more spam-yahoo.com) on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 at 09:21:18 AM MST
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Ozone is the smell that comes from firing a spark plug, brushes in an electric motor, using a copy machine, air purifiers like Tom has. Mercury vapor bulbs fired at high voltage are normally used to produce ozone in water systems.

Chlorine bleach is still the cheapest and most effective way to disinfect water. With a swimmimg pool test kit and several gallons of bleach can be bought for 20 dollars or less.
If the smell bothers you, you can buy a carbon filter like the brita stuff from here: http://www.brita.com/index_ca.html after it's disinfected. I suggest disinfecting first because the charcoal/carbon in the brita type filters can harbor a good colony of bacteria, so your back to square one.
Sorry for taking so long to reply but I hope this helps,
Phil

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