do you eat soya?[ Parent ]
do you eat soya?"
Your point is ? .. FYI its about 95% of soya thats fed to animals which are from 5:1 to 54:1 input->output .. Interesting read: http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/library/key_pub/longshad/A0701E00.pdf 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.'-Albert Einstein Fungus - www.reenergy.co.uk[ Parent ]
For the record, im interested on your view, from your response it suggests is a corner you fright from regularly.
Inquiring as a chap in my class is vegan also. He has now chosen not to eat soya, wondering what your stand on it is? It is a matter of strong debate.
Personally I wounder about the intensive agriculture, mono culture and desertification growing it produces. Also the use of chemicals, the associated waste and energy use, the carbon foot print of shipping it around etc etc. Not so clean cut.Jon M
www.otherpower.co.uk "I am certainly not a perfectionist, the thing is to know where you can take short c[ Parent ]
I do intend in at least reading some of the report but like you say, 400 pages! Along with college work im not sure it will get read any time soon.
Just spent a couple of hours working out the maths behind the space needed to produce biofuel.
Slightly off topic but along the same lines, using more bio fuels means less space for food to be grown so more is imported from 'third worlds'. Jon M
Range-fed cattle, though, are a net gain eco-wise. They prefer the invasive European grasses and weeds that squeeze out native plants in the absence of cattle grazing, while leaving plenty of foliage for other plant-eating species. Their water needs are mostly met by grazing rather than drinking. And the land is unsuitable for virtually any other practical food-producing use without major irrigation and other modification. (Though they're an introduced species with a taste for the invasive plants, they're otherwise quite close to the native equivalent - buffalo - which ARE breeding back up from near-extinction.)
But there's nowhere near enough of 'em to grow all the hamburgers and steaks consumed. So at this point vegans are still reducing the human crop footprint by eschewing rather than chewing meat.[ Parent ]
But there's nowhere near enough of 'em to grow all the hamburgers and steaks consumed. So at this point vegans are still reducing the human crop footprint by eschewing rather than chewing meat. " Agreed, but range-fed doesnt always equal good as one of the main uses of the land in the amazon where the rainforests were is being used for ranches, not much is very black and white :) .. Another thing, not sure if its the same there, but here in the highlands a lot of sheep are farmed on the hills, they nibble down just about every plant on the hills and leave them quite barren even though they're spread out over a large area .. the places where the sheep can't go have markedly more biodiversity .. 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.'-Albert Einstein Fungus - www.reenergy.co.uk[ Parent ]
