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CSA approval? | 30 comments (30 topical, 0 editorial)
Re: CSA approval? (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by scottsAI (user name at eml dot cc) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 07:10:13 AM MST
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CSA = Canadian Space Agency
CSA = Community Supported Agriculture
CSA = Celiac Sprue Association

This is it CSA = Canadian Standards Association
http://www.csa.com/

Inspector from electrical safety is most likely looking at this:
http://www.csa.ca/standards/electrical/Default.asp?language=english

When the bureaucracy catches up with you, unfortunately You have two choices.
One. Pay the price and hope it works. The victims approach, just don't know where it will lead. Field Inspector could ask for Lab testing... all kinds of stuff you do not have, nor could afford, therefore shutting you down.
Two. Fight. This can get as expensive as above if you do not know what your doing.

To not be a victim you will have to learn the law as it applies to you. If you do not then it will cost you, the less you know the more it will cost.

TheCasualTraveler gave very good advice. Find others in the area with wind gen, see if they have any experience with this guy. Particularly his comment "(without offering suggestions)". The less you tell them the better off you will be. Everything you say will be used against you.

Verify the guy is from the city. Scams everywhere.

Ask inspector in writing to cite the code (or law) as he applied it here in witting (Proper citing will list the document name (number), page, paragraph). Often the inspectors do not know their own law they are operating under to do so or will cite something that does not apply.
Over 700 CSA electrical standards and electronics standards address everything from fuses and light bulbs to sophisticated equipment for control and laboratory use.
To say it must be CSA approved is like saying it must comply with the law without saying which law.
If inspector cits a shock hazard, by law (international) under 50v is below accepted shock voltage limit, 24v does not apply.

Show the CSA stickers on the inverters, may be the only place it needs to be.

Good luck.
Scott.



Re: CSA approval? (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by electrondady1 on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 08:06:44 AM MST
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the more i think about this the less i like it.
if you were grid tied i could see it.
 the components are csa approved or you would not be able to buy them.
i guess it's all about the  liability insurance.

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Re: CSA approval? (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by TomW on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 08:11:06 AM MST
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hehe.

CSA to me means "Confederate States of America"

Only because I just watched that mockumentary. Hilarious.

I think that the original poster has just run up against an incompetent tin god syndrome infected public functionary.

It is just plain stupid.

Personally, I would demand to be told what exact rule or law or document says you need to have a turbine for personal use on private property inspected. All very politely of course.

I have a friend who makes equipment for construction companies. He had to supply a model of each device to a lab which they test to destruction. You could never get U.L.[our equivalent to CSA] approval on a one off design.

Anyway, stand by your rights and don't let them make it up as they go along. Demand it in writing, too. Tell them it is so you can follow the law as it is written.

Devices connected to the grid or house outlets may require it by default, however and this makes sense.

Just my thoughts.

"Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned."--Mark Twain
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Re: CSA approval? (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by DamonHD (d@hd.org) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 08:57:53 AM MST
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Hi,

I think the "so you can follow the law as it is written" point is pretty difficult for a civil servant to resist.  It should eventually neuter the incompetent/overzealous ones for a start.  And keep everything in writing, to give said zealots rope to hang themselves with.

If they are right, at least (a) you show yourself to be willing to comply in principle and (b) will understand better what you might need to fix.

Rgds

Damon

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