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My last coil question. | 18 comments (18 topical, editorial)
Re: My last coil question. (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by blueyonder (windwoodgood at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 05:11:32 PM MST
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  hi trav you allways get a good response to your questions .
  and i always read with interest.
  i am also building a six foot   16 mag 2x1. 6 coil .
  but my rotors will be 9"   yours will be 10".
  i am not using a standard hub . so are you using a standard trailer hub .
   i think thay are 4" across centers (i think)  . i am already running it as a single rotor mill so have made it 9".  and when i make the new matching rotor it will also be 9".  otherwise i could have gone to 10" as you have . and used a 4" cen hub.
  why i did this is a long story.
   but i will also build a 12" twin rotor 5 phase . from hughs plans.
   so this post is great reading for me aswell.
   i have got sum testing done with the one i have now. but now i also need a new stator for this new one.
   what i would like to ask is .testing a coil with one 8 mag rotor.
  and testing the same coil with two rotors . will the results just be twice
 what i get from one rotor. ac of course .
  i have been testing  two coils at the same time.
 its interesting .  and good learning .  two coils one phase.
  just playing around really.
   i allready got all the info i need as regards wire and turns from Flux.
   i wonder will you get yours in the air before me. the 9" rotors seam perfect
 for me .    but using a standard hub makes life so easy.
   coil legs can be bigger than 1/2"  3/4" is more like it.(i think)
    its great learning here dont you think.

   
its a ill wind that dos no good



Re: My last coil question. (3.00 / 0) (#14)
by TheCasualTraveler (a.miklos@yahoo.com) on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 06:44:28 PM MST
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Hello Blue,

     I am not using a trailer hub. I have my own design, cobbled from other designs I have seen on this site. You can see what I'm doing in my user info or on my webpage.

     I'll leave to others your question about output by going dual rotor.

     I agree, it's a great site and I think I learn something here everyday. I already have one mill in the air so I think it's your turn before I get my second one up! Good luck with it.
Andy
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Re: My last coil question. (3.00 / 0) (#15)
by Jerry on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 at 09:40:56 PM MST
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Hi Andy.

Your first geny is a good looking machine. I can see those blades spinning in the gentelest breeze.

What is the metal blade hub from and what is the root degrees?

You've stated that since wires got pulled out you are now useing 3 fullwave bridges. Are you using one per phase?

It apears your down wires are taped to the mast? How does that work out when the geny changes direction?

I've built my bearing asembly the same way but with metal pipe.

My second 8" dual rotor genny survived an 80 MPH storm last winter and was producing 1600 watts for a couple HRs, 4 ft blades no furling.

                           JK TAS Jerry

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Re: My last coil question. (3.00 / 0) (#16)
by TheCasualTraveler (a.miklos@yahoo.com) on Wed Apr 9th, 2008 at 07:28:58 AM MST
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HI Jerry,

Thanks for the compliment. Let's see...

Right now the wind is at 5 to 7 mph and it's just bouncing in and out of cut in.

The hub for the blades is the fan off a Chevy S-10 less the original blades. There are 6 arms on the fan hub and they have a twist. I ignored the twist and lined up the curve of the PVC blade so the trailing edge was square with the wind and the curved root was about 90 degrees off from that and into the wind.

Yes, 3 bridge rectifiers, and Jerry rigged is the next step! In an earlier post I mentioned adding a second disc behind the stator that put my machine bad into stall in light winds. So I brought the disc out 1/8 inch and got increased power and no stall. Now several times it has been recommended I try Jerry rigged and I did in fact try it before I added the second steel disc. It worked about the same as hooking it up for 24 volt, (in terms of watts). I lost all power from the 8 to 10 mph range (my usual). However, everyone's friend, Mr Ghurd convinced me if I try jerry rigged again now I may be able to move the disc back in possibly finding that sweet spot.

As for the down wires, they work like most. I go out and take a twist out every few weeks. This is my test machine so nothing is fixed too permanently. It is mounted by my houses first story roof in an area with lots of turbulence. It's easy access as I just step out a window and onto this roof. I am preparing a spot on top of my third story attic where it will be 35 feet high. Thats a project in itself with all kinds of rubber bushings for vibration damping. Once up there I will try to have the down wires inside the pipe.

No doubt I borrowed ideas from your files for the bearing assembly. I've ransacked everyone's files stealing ideas. I think I got most of my PVC ideas from GeeMac.

The output of your mill is impressive. You must have built it like a rock. Where in your files can I see more of that machine? Is it 12, 24 or 48 volt? I'm trying to get results that will compare with a simple battery charger. Like the kind with a switch, 2 amps normal charge or 10 amps boost. The most I've seen from this mill was 10.25 amps in a gust I estimate at 35 mph. I have no idea what #22 gauge wire can take but I assume it couldn't do that continuously.  If I can get 2 to 3 amps most of the time and more on high wind days I think I will have done what I can with our light coastal breeze. Right now it's putting out most of the time in the 1/2 to 2 amp range. I would also like to avoid furling and am considering a 5 blade set in the 4 to 5 foot range. I will also carve wood blades for a 6 foot 3 blade set.

Andy
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