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Norway island stores wind power for still days | 30 comments (30 topical, editorial)

Re: Norway island stores wind power for still days (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by Simen on Tue May 13th, 2008 at 03:33:13 PM MST
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Interesting...

I've already been playing around with electrolysis of water with the help of an pwm... (And yes, i still have my eyebrows and beard... :D )Wonder what the simplest way to collect and store the hydrogen would be...

Maybe a tank with vacuum initially?

Re: Norway island stores wind power for still days (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by clflyguy (sidney.raiford@gmail.com) on Tue May 13th, 2008 at 08:45:45 PM MST
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Simen, how about just using an LP tank that was all but empty to purge the line,
then compress the hydrogen and send back up the same line to tank? No oxygen
contamination.. Both burnable fuels. Is your pwm producing better than brute force
electrolysis?

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Re: Norway island stores wind power for still days (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by Simen on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 01:01:04 AM MST
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An LP tank would work; just have to find a compressor that is safe to use with the gas.

Simple electrolysis of water doesn't only produce Hydrogen, but also Oxygen; HHO, also called Browns Gas...

And using the pwm...
I haven't had any better result with the pwm yet. The theory is to find the 'sweet-spot' by means of the right frequency and pulses, where the Hydrogen and oxygen atoms separate more easily, and thus avoid using any catalyst in the water. (Like in the movie: Chain Reaction. ;) ) There are several examples on Yourtube which claims to have made this work... :?

I've built the pwm for this purpose presented on this site: http://www.h2earth.org/main.htm
Though, they're starting to throw the word 'Overunity' around there, so i'm a bit skeptical... ;)

Just remember that HHO gas are very volatile; do not play with it indoors... ;)

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Re: Norway island stores wind power for still days (3.00 / 0) (#19)
by Bruce S (bruce(dot)stahl <at>gmail (dot)(com)) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 10:22:40 AM MST
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clflyguy; et al;
LP and H2 don't like playing together in a compressed state :-)
once empty, the LP tanks shuld be left wide open, take valve off if you can, for several days. Even when pressure is too low to read there's usually still some left. Leave it in the sun covered with black tarp, the pressure inside will show back up.
Dry inside completely, use a vaccuum pump to evacuate the tank, then store H2. Pretty safe at 100psi.
For very low power systems , mylar ballons can be used, weather ballons if you're making a bunch :-)

As others have said following safety rules keeps eye brows and hearing intact:-)

Cheers
Bruce S

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