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Norway island stores wind power for still days | 30 comments (30 topical, editorial)
Re: Norway island stores wind power for still days (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by spinningmagnets (velmis1450bc(at)aol(dot)com) on Tue May 13th, 2008 at 06:13:49 PM MST
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I've considered this as a possible option in the future. My current "vaporware" calls for a large propane tank (a safe distance from the house) that is initially filled with water, then H2 is added to the top until the water is all gone.

I bought a barbeque recently (when the power went out for two days) and I paid a little extra for a model that already had an adjustable air-mix to swap between propane and natural gas (methane). On the methane setting, it will burn a little lean when using H2, but since it doesn't have any carbon in it (methane is C1-H4), no pisonous carbon monoxide will be produced.

(I'm also a fan of using waste vegetable oil (WVO) in a back-up diesel-generator, but I have saved links for adapting a propane regulator onto a gasoline generator which can be adjusted to run on H2, I guess we'll see...)

Anyone out there with actual experience using Pure H2 as cooking fuel?

"Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan" -Marcus Aurelius



Re: Norway island stores wind power for still days (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by finnsawyer on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 08:21:37 AM MST
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I've been told that the way they pressure test LP tanks and the like is to fill the tank with water and then run up the pressure.  If the tank fails, it ruptures and the pressure falls instantly to zero.  No destructive and dangerous explosion.  Just thought I'd pass that on.  Not responsible for unintended consequences, though.
GeoM
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Re: Norway island stores wind power for still days (3.00 / 0) (#21)
by Bruce S (bruce(dot)stahl <at>gmail (dot)(com)) on Thu May 15th, 2008 at 11:15:27 AM MST
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I've used the stuff a time or two ;+)
Did the cute little #2 pencil graphite trick, used rechargable NiCds for low voltage high current electrolysis.
Used a glass beeker that had two openings. one for Oxy other for H2. Ran clear plastic tubing from Oxy to in-house plants down at root level.
Ran plastic tubing from H2 side to mylar balloons that had been never been used for parties. rubber banded the plastic tube to mylar and let it run , when it wanted to.
Found that by closing off ALL air vents to burner and adding 00 size steel wool would give you a visable burn and allow the H2 to spread out instead of right under or straight up as it were.

I stopped using it a while ago, Methane is much eaiser to control, store,and since its the major item in Natural gas, the jets can be used with little to no adjustments. AND the by product makes gradens very happy :_o

Hope this helps
Bruce S


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