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Old forklift batteries | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 editorial)
Re: Old forklift batteries (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by Simen on Mon May 5th, 2008 at 03:45:22 PM MST
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Now i've charged one of the 330Ah banks a total of 20hours at a steady 20A; it's a lot of gassing activity, but i can't get the specific gravity to get higher than around 1.150... :(

The guy i got this from said it was low on water, so he had topped it up with quite a bit... Is there a possibility that the 'missing' waterlevel has been spilled out (not evaporated over time), and so the total acid level is now too low?

Should i continue to charge the bank? Or can/should i replace some of the waterlevel with fresh acid? (20hrs x 20A... Should have been added 400Ah worth of power there...)



Re: Old forklift batteries (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by dnix71 (yahoo.com 'dnix71') on Wed May 7th, 2008 at 08:10:37 PM MST
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If one started gassing immediately, it has shorted cells. I work in a warehouse with electric lifts. A decent set of 24v cells is a couple of $thousand and up. A set for our Raymond would be about $16k.

People don't give away free money, so i doubt your batteries are usable as is. Your best bet is to load test each cell and get rid of the shorted cells. Build a stack with the good ones. There are battery rebuilders who do that for a living. The cost of batteries that size is so high and cost of legal disposal of lead and acid makes salvage pay.

Forklift batteries only last about 4 years in regular service anyway. If they have been left discharged then the plates sulfate just like a car battery.

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Re: Old forklift batteries (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Simen on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 03:32:57 AM MST
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Thanks for the heads up... :)

I'm afraid you're right; i've left the 240Ah bank unloaded for a couple of days after charging, and the voltage has been steady at 25,3v. I've just rewired the bank, so it's now at 12,65v. I have connected a small 12v inverter to the bank with a 60W bulb as a load, and after 1/2hour, the voltage is at 12,25v...

Doesn't sound good, does it? :?
Or could this bank come to some useable life again by discharge it and recharge it a couple of times?
The charger i use, is a Jungheinrich Timetronic 24v, 40A charger. It has no maintenance charging, and no equalizing charge; just a timerbased charging with a schedule that i've yet to figure out... ;) (Can't find any info for the charger on the net... :( )

I've almost given up the 330Ah banks. One of them has an unloaded voltage at 12,45v after days of charging at 20A, allthough all cells are at same voltage.

The other 330Ah bank had 2 dead cells, and several poor ones. The cells are so uneven, that i doesn't think i can put together a 12v bank...

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Re: Old forklift batteries (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by Simen on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 05:58:33 AM MST
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Forgot to mention; those 12,25v on the 240Ah bank is under load, and is actually 12,35v (The battery in my multimeter was flat when i first measured... :D )

Now, after 4hrs with the 60W load (Measured: 5,43A), the voltage is still at 12,35v. Maybe there is some juice left after all :)

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Re: Old forklift batteries (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by Simen on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 04:35:33 PM MST
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A small update. :)

14.5hrs and the voltage has fallen from 12.35v to 12.27v with the 60W load. (plus 7.5W for the inverter itself.)

I think i'll keep this bank. ;) Even if it died now after drawing 80A total, it'll have its uses... ;)

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Re: Old forklift batteries (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by dnix71 (yahoo.com 'dnix71') on Thu May 8th, 2008 at 05:09:52 PM MST
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Equalizing is just overcharging a little so you cook off some of the water in the stronger cells. Once all of the cells are gassing, you have reached a full charge.

After equalizing, you add water to level all the cells off to the same height.

You always add water after charging and while it's still warm. If the cells have exposed plates, you can add just enough to cover the plates, then charge. If you add water before charging you risk an overflow since charging expands the electrolyte volume by heating it and introducing gas bubbles.

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Re: Old forklift batteries (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by Simen on Fri May 9th, 2008 at 12:13:57 AM MST
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Water filling is no problem on these cells. ;)

As mentioned before, these cells have Aquamatic plugs, similar to these:

http://www.hawkerpowersource.com/products/accessories.htm

Though, mine are the previous generation, without the hole for measuring the specific gravity; there is a small hole with a plug in the corner of each cell for that purpose. ;)

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