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Hi from Donkeysparks | 3 comments (3 topical, editorial)
Re: Hi from Donkeysparks (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by spinningmagnets (velmis1450bc(at)aol(dot)com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 04:29:22 PM MST
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The type of battery in the battery jump-starters is very good for an electric bicycle, but you will need 3 of the 12V's to get 36 volts, and 4 to get 48V (wired in series, not parallel).

The starter pack should have come with a charger. If it's one of the "affordable" brands, it may not have a State-Of-Charge (SOC) sensor, so, if you leave it on for a long time, it will continue to charge the battery after its "full". That would be bad.

A more sophisticated charger (which it "might" have) will give it more charging amps when its very low, a trickle when its near full, and then stop when its done.

To get a generator to make electricity, you need to spin magnets next to a stationary set of copper wire coils. If the magnets are "permanent" magnets, such a generator is called a Permanent Magnet Alternator (PMA).

Some enthusiasts have taken a Permanent Magnet Motor (PMM), such as a "servo motor", and its easily converted to a PMA.

The type of motor in your drill probably has will use copper wire coils aound steel cores, and by passing a flow of electricity through them, the spinninmg coils become "electro magnets".

If this is the case, you could make it an "induction motor conversion" where you add capacitors to provide "start-up" electricity to the coils in the spinning armature, and after starting, a small amount of electricity would be drawn from the field coils to keep it going (through brushes).

If you took the armature out, and replaced the spinning copper wire coils with permanent magnets, the search term is "Zubbly conversion".

Even if you went through all this effort to make your drill a generator, I am certain you will be very disappointed with its output (plus the bearings were not designed for continuous duty).

Do you want to charge a 12V battery for some purpose? If you specify the desired end result, you may be suprised by the useful suggestions....




Re: Hi from Donkeysparks (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by kurt on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 06:12:45 PM MST
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Donkeysparks said the motor was out of a 12v drill.... a cordless drill i would assume.... it is most likely a pm dc motor but a very high rpm one and you would have to spin it at insane speeds to get 12v out of it as a generator you could spin it up with another drill and see if you wanted..... but i would look for another motor usually as a rule of thumb 12v motors make lousy 12v generators unless you are spinning them with a gas engine or something.....

 most likely the battery pack has no internal regulator that would be of help to you in this endeavor and i would definitely not apply unregulated genny power to the charging plug were the wall wort plugs in just in case it has some electronics in there but i doubt it. most likely it is just a wall wort regulated to 13.8-14v hooked directly to the battery for charging......  charge through the jumper cables if anything....

http://www.reresource.org/

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Re: Hi from Donkeysparks (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by Donkeysparks on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 09:14:17 PM MST
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Thanks for the info spinning magnets,
The starter pack is one of those affordable ones so I doubt it has SOC sensor.My plan was to generate and store power to supply some garden lighting at 12v at the end of my garden.I have a shed at the end of the garden where I store my tractor mower and battery jump start, both are kept topped up with those small solar panels you see in auto spares shops for cars.So I was just seeing if I could use what I had.
Thinking about it the drill motor ran through a gearbox so thinking in reverse I would need very high RPM to gain anything using it as a generator.
I only suggested using it as I had seen smaller DC motors being used in the experiment pages of the site.
Thanks again for your input.

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