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holey stators batmam | 12 comments (12 topical, 0 editorial)
Re: holey stators batmam (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by blueyonder (windwoodgood at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 03:22:36 PM MST
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thanks for the nice comments. fluz andy and mau.
  and now i got sum info on the stator.

   when winding the coils i was looking for a 220rpm cut in.
 testing each coil one at a time ac i was getting 2.5 per coil.
  so six coils were 15 ac. so that looked ok to me.
  but now with the stator finished and running on test bench.
   this is what i am getting out.
        rpm         volts dc.
       260            13.3
       270            14.00
       300            14.7
       320            16.00
       330            16.7
       340            17.00.
   this is with three bridge rectifiers.  one per phase.
   the dc voltage was lower so i had to close up then good working air gap i had.
   now every thing is a bit close .but running free and clear.

    it was in my mind i will need open the gap a bit to lower the cut in speed.
    or the other thing was to put a bit resistance in the dc line.
   now i can see the cut in speed is a bit to high .
   but its working well just going a bit fast.
   this is with a motor on the bench dring the mill.

    but looks like i might lose out a bit in lower winds.
   apart from making a new stater and putting sum extra turns on the coils.

     two in hand 16awg. 52 turns per coil.(should have put 55)
    i suppose that few tuns just makes the difference      
       so it looks like i am stuck now with the higher winds
   and wont get much from the lower ones.

     i did connect it to a battery  also used a 21 watt light bulb.
   i was very impressed with the amps out.
    but as it was being pushed with grid power i never took any readings.
  would i save anything if i used just two bridge rectifiers.
    apart from putting a coat of wax on the blades.
   is there anything else i can do to lower the cut in speed.
    blade is six foot dia.
   i thought i had  it right this time. not far out.
its a ill wind that dos no good



Re: holey stators batmam (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by fcfcfc on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 07:20:34 AM MST
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Hi: I find your test numbers interesting. A while back when I posted "Bill's Super VAWT" goals, I received a whole bunch of _hit from several posters about gen output expectations. Anyway, I find it interesting that between your lowest RPM 240 and the highest RPM 360 you only have a 2% drop in voltage, IE a 30% increase in RPM from 240 yielded a 28% increase in voltage. Thank you for the test coil numbers... very useful...

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Re: holey stators batmam (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by blueyonder (windwoodgood at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 02:44:07 PM MST
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  hi bill thanks for the comment .
  only thing is i am not very good with maths.
   so i am not sure what your saying. is it a good thing or a bad thing.
  so far this is the only details i have from testing.
   but would like to know what other tests i can do on the bench.
  not great with maths or electronics  .or in other wards i know zilt.

 i would like to try other forms of testing .but without putting it up in the wind.
  what can i learn.
    as long as i dont need a degree . cheers bill. blueyonder.
   
its a ill wind that dos no good
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Re: holey stators batmam (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by fcfcfc on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 05:05:18 PM MST
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Hi:
No, I think that is good, that is the "tightness" of the NL voltage in relation to RPM... I would be curious about voltage outputs starting from 100 RPM in increments of 50, up to however fast you dare to turn it. Then you would have enough base NL voltage points to put together a nice NL voltage curve. This could be compared to a loaded stator power curve at the same RPM points later on. Those two curves together would be most interesting indeed...

.....Bill


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Re: holey stators batmam (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by blueyonder (windwoodgood at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 12:41:31 PM MST
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  sure bill i can log sum data on the bench test.
  i did enjoy doing it as it did help me understand things a bit more.
  i have been doing other things and every thing is as i left it on the gen.
   i never thought to compare this rotor with with another i might make.in the future.

   but now with sum fore sight it would be good to copy down sum numbers
  and then i can always compare at a later date.
   what would be best to test a load on the gen.
   i did blow a 21 watt light bulb. but that was mega rpm. evan the ac bench motor
   was struggling . so is a battery ok or better with a resister .
   one thing i did notice was a sweet and gentile hum as it made power.
    that was sweet music to my ears.

    i am better off playing with engines at least i can understand how well its
  running and starting.  but that's off topic .
   it might be best if i put results in a diary entry.
     cheers again .John.
   
its a ill wind that dos no good
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Re: holey stators batmam (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by fcfcfc on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:35:22 PM MST
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Hi:

You blow a light bulb due to over voltage not over current because it is the voltage across the light bulb that determines the current through it (assuming enough is available). So, I would just put two 25 or 40 watt bulbs in series.... I.E. with one wire into one and out, then into the other and out, with the second wire on a switch or something... just not in parallel.. this way you will halve the voltage across each bulb and should be OK...

.....Bill

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