I'm in the NW part of the country, but will be moving to a more tropical local if I am lucky. Where you?[ Parent ]
If things go bad Brighton near Detroit MI is not the place to be. That was why I was looking for some place else!! I have 30 days of food, lights and water indefinitely 100w solar
Have fun, Scott. [ Parent ]
Do you have a family? I'd say if it is only you, then move someplace warm, before winter, before a banking lockup. For the price of an airline ticket, you could go refugee in Australia, Hawaii, New Zealand, Fiji, Cozmel. If you have a modest amount of cash, you could rent a small place in Mexico for cheep, near an agricultural area, pay to vaccinate the local children, and ingratiate yourself with the locals. Use your imagination. You have a passport, right? [ Parent ]
Children grown, locally. Difficult to get wife to move. Been laid off almost a year, enjoying the free time too much!! Want early retirement! Passport is up to date.
Sister in law in Mexico, loves it. Will join her if things get bad.
Back in 84-85 I worked at a gas station for $3.35/hour. Gas was about $1.65. I was paid "2 gallons an hour". Now, gas is $3.64 (this morning), and the guy working there gets $7.25/hour. He is paid "2 gallons an hour".
At the time, I had a Coupe de Ville that got about 14MPG. He probably has a Honda that gets 35MPG. He works less hours to go 100 miles than I did back in the days of cheap gas. Less % of his minimum wage pay check goes to 100 miles of gas. Almost like gas got cheaper?
Big Mac value meal costs the same too, slightly less than 1 hours wage then and now.[ Parent ]
Years later, repeat felons got tired of being identified by their victims, and getting increasingly longer repeat prison terms, so...They began killing their victims so nobody could identify them. Most states don't actively enforce the duly voted-in death penalty. They would just be going to prison anyway if they were caught, so why not kill witnesses? (law of un-intended consequences?)
I lived in Los Angeles during the LA riots. I worked at McDonnel Douglas in North Long Beach (I also lived at 804 N Thorsen in Compton in 1964). During the riots, the police were so overwhelmed, they stopped responding to 911 calls. Criminals committed many crimes knowing that the police would not answer the phone.
Police Chief Gates issued an unconstitutional moratorium in Los Angeles County on gun pick-ups and ammunition sales. Citizens who had already paid and waited their 3 weeks could not pick up the guns the law said they should be allowed to. Thousands flocked to Orange County down the 5 freeway to B&B gun warehouse to buy ammunition for guns they already had for their defense.
After hurricane Andrew in Florida, police were unable to contain roving packs of looters for a week (National Guard arrived, curfew). One homeowner was able to repel them by merely brandishing a .22, that was all it took.
After I saw what Gates did, I bought a 12-Ga pump shotgun (with shoulder strap) that would accept 3" shells in addition to the standard 2-7/8"-ers. Also a .357 pistol, and later a cheap Chinese SKS semi-auto army rifle.
Other than the standard items often cited (water, canned food, etc) I would also recommend anti-biotics and pain-killers (broken leg/hospital swamped, etc)
Another country to add to the list might be Costa Rica, I've heard good things.
I believe the price of lead will probably go up even more. Demand rising, no sigificant new mines...[ Parent ]
Better revisit Costa Rica idea. Friend bought property for retirement there, planed 20+ years the move. Learned the language etc. Retirement came he moved. Less than a year later he was back...? Local rebels took him and wife at gun point, tossed both in the trunk of their car. Rebels drove around for 4 hours discussing whether to kill them or not, they wanted to make an example to other Americans. Lucky for them they chose not. Local police did nothing. Next day returned to MI. I would have burned my place so another could not get seduced into moving.
