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Long term storage/Dry lead-acid batteries | 29 comments (29 topical, editorial)
YOUR THREAD?? (3.00 / 0) (#17)
by TomW on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 at 11:54:08 AM MST
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Hammie;

I find your assertion this is your thread offensive.

Your decision to trust in the civility of humans in a crisis is commendable if rather unrealistic.

The question is: How long before it evaporates as you watch lowlifes abuse your family & friends? Then you will wish you had a person like those rednecks Tom and Glen sitting in the brush 150 yards off with a scoped rifle dialed in on the bad guys cranium. Fair or not, violence has its uses. So does wringing your hands and talking it over but which is immediately effective?

Storing dry batteries in preparation for some post apocalyptic scenario is not something I would waste resources on personally. Then, again, you have not revealed your true purpose so who knows what you plan?

Just my thoughts.

Tom

"Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned."--Mark Twain
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Re: YOUR THREAD?? (3.00 / 0) (#19)
by hamlet on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 at 02:01:15 PM MST
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Yes, this is my thread, because I started it. Comments such as yours illustrate
the great degree of insecurity and powerlessness many people are feeling. I doubt you've ever shot anybody, been shot, or have any experience with the fallout from such a violent event.

"you will wish you had a person like those rednecks Tom and Glen sitting in the brush 150 yards off with a scoped rifle dialed in on the bad guys cranium"

Sounds like you suffer from "redneck anarchy-fantasy syndrome".
Right up there with "if you plug 'em on the porch, drag 'em back thru the door."

Reducing the collapse to such a simple set of ideas may give you some comfort, but crying babies, toothaches, hunger, and tears will stock you with a greater ruthless persistence than any imagined boogieman, offering no clear target for your cold blue steel.

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Re: YOUR THREAD?? (3.00 / 0) (#21)
by DamonHD (d@hd.org) on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 at 02:36:18 PM MST
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May I suggest that you really don't know what you are talking about with Tom, on several points.

When in a hole, the best policy is to stop digging, IMHO.

Rgds

Damon

PS. If you want to get your rocks off screaming at me, please do so, since it's a lot safer than bawling Tom out.

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Re: YOUR THREAD?? (3.00 / 0) (#23)
by TomW on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 at 03:06:28 PM MST
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Main points;

Thread ownership is not granted or implied. Post ownership is granted by the terms of use... they are not the same thing.

I happen to be a combat wounded veteran [VietNam] with multiple confirmed kills. had buddies blown to blood spatters shot up, etc right in front of me, too. You obviously do not know me or my personal experience in life.

I am not living some movie induced fantasy. I have lived with the ramifications of having been shot every day for nearly 40 years with a unreliable and painful leg. No complaints just reality. I know the difference between violence in "Quake" and violence on flesh and blood.

I am far from powerless. We own property free and clear so we have a place pretty much regardless of what happens in the financial markets like you see now. We grow food we make our own power at a level sufficient to survive well. I can hunt our own land and we heat with wood.

This is not by accident that we are in this position. We saw it coming long ago and positioned ourselves for survivability by not buying all the crap folks think they "need" and sinking money into land and useful tools instead.  As well as learning skills to survive. How about you?

There is this fine old American tradition called self reliance that we embraced long ago. It seems to be missing in most Americans today. I call them sheep mostly now because thats how they act.

I am not some pimple faced kid in his moms basement spouting bull, you know.

You still didn't tell us what it is you foresee doing with the stored batteries?

Thats where my curiosity lies.

The rest I suggest we just agree to disagree and let it go at that.

Then we can find out what you plan to do that you think you need dry batteries.

Tom

"Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned."--Mark Twain
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Re: YOUR THREAD?? (3.00 / 0) (#25)
by hamlet on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 at 11:07:18 PM MST
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Thanks for your reply.

Obviously, you're not a Nintendo commando, but a real baby-killer.

I was way off the mark. A gulf of misunderstanding.
Communication breakdown. We're all much worse off than I've anticipated.
Perhaps our current troubles don't have their root in agriculture, as some
have suggested, but written language. I am awed by the power of the non sequitur...

Dry-charged lead acid:

Agriculture is tough without irrigation. I homestead on top of a hill. Water at bottom of hill, 1/4 mile distant. Pumping that water would make gardening easier. I would like to use an LCB. However, to beat voltage drop, I need an LCB rated for 90v, and a pump/motor, 90v/2A. This would necessitate linking several of my panels in series, at the expense of my wattage, which I'd like to avoid. Hence, I'm back to using batteries/inverter/diode-bridge. The batteries are the weak link between myself and supper. Thus, I think it worthwhile to get a few extras. Also, I am planning a move to a remote geography, and if this is successful, I'd like to take a few spares with me. There will come a time when replacements and spares are unobtainable, especially at the far reaches of the supply chain. Might need to charge the night-vision gear; who knows?

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Re: YOUR THREAD?? (3.00 / 0) (#28)
by hamlet on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 06:26:44 AM MST
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On reflection, pardon me for the baby-killer remark, unless you actually did.

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