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I happen to be a combat wounded veteran [VietNam] with multiple confirmed kills. had buddies blown to blood spatters shot up, etc right in front of me, too. You obviously do not know me or my personal experience in life.

I am not living some movie induced fantasy. I have lived with the ramifications of having been shot every day for nearly 40 years with a unreliable and painful leg. No complaints just reality. I know the difference between violence in "Quake" and violence on flesh and blood.

I am far from powerless. We own property free and clear so we have a place pretty much regardless of what happens in the financial markets like you see now. We grow food we make our own power at a level sufficient to survive well. I can hunt our own land and we heat with wood.

This is not by accident that we are in this position. We saw it coming long ago and positioned ourselves for survivability by not buying all the crap folks think they "need" and sinking money into land and useful tools instead.  As well as learning skills to survive. How about you?

There is this fine old American tradition called self reliance that we embraced long ago. It seems to be missing in most Americans today. I call them sheep mostly now because thats how they act.

I am not some pimple faced kid in his moms basement spouting bull, you know.

You still didn't tell us what it is you foresee doing with the stored batteries?

Thats where my curiosity lies.

The rest I suggest we just agree to disagree and let it go at that.

Then we can find out what you plan to do that you think you need dry batteries.

Tom