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Photovoltaic solar for heating a room? | 13 comments (13 topical, editorial)
Re: Photovoltaic solar for heating a room? (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Chagrin on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 12:45:32 AM MST
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How is an electric heater ever not 100% efficient?



Re: Photovoltaic solar for heating a room? (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by DamonHD (d@hd.org) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 01:58:59 AM MST
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By accidentally generating light?

There's some electric heaters that waste as much as ~10% of their energy as light, but luckily houses are full of sockets near the ceiling to put them in so you can make some use of that wasted light to read by, etc.  B^>

Rgds

Damon

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Re: Photovoltaic solar for heating a room? (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by Capt Slog (Capt.Slog(at this)gmail.com) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 08:32:46 AM MST
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As much as 10% ?  I think the figure on an incadescent bulb is nearer 3%, I don't know about CFLs.

Good point though  ;-)

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"Slowly changing the world, one watt at a time!"
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Re: Photovoltaic solar for heating a room? (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by Chagrin on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 01:14:00 PM MST
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So if I built two insulated boxes and put a 100W ceramic heater in one box and a 100W light bulb in the other box, are you saying that the box with the heater in it would get hotter?

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Re: Photovoltaic solar for heating a room? (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by DamonHD (d@hd.org) on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 01:56:17 PM MST
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Hi,

No, all other things (eg box dimensions and construction) being equal.

But heat is a VERY low grade form of energy, eg 1kWh of heat can typically only make maybe a third of 1kWh of electricity or light and conversely 1kWh of electricity can make and pump considerably more than 1kWh of heat.

So the '100%' efficiency is a bit misleading.

Like I could burn books for heat fairly efficiency for example, maybe 100% in one of those boxes of yours, but that's missing most of their value.

Rgds

Damon

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