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Giving a talk next week on Dynamic Demand | 34 comments (34 topical)
Re: talk next week on "Dynamic Demand" (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by dnix71 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 10:48:34 AM MST

I didn't know that SA had rolling blackouts. The media in the US ignores the rest of the world. What happened, no rain-loss of Hydro?

Higher efficiency standards are the best solution. If autos and appliances by law had to be energy misers, then everyone wins. If some people don't like that, tough, there just isn't enough to go around unless everyone uses less.



Re: talk next week on "Dynamic Demand" (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by wdyasq on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 11:16:25 AM MST

I want the higher efficiency as a choice I can make, not a mandate for everyone.

You may want the government controlling every aspect of your life. I'm still looking for one thing they have done right.

Ron
Adventure is just bad planning." -- Roald Amundsen
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Re: talk next week on "Dynamic Demand" (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by DamonHD on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:45:37 PM MST

Well, so far the European Commission is on your side rather than mine!

But more seriously, the issue of allowing my neighbour to 'choose' a path that may ruin both of us is why we may need regulation, just like building and fire and wiring regs...

Anyway, the talk is about the technology rather then if it should be enforced.

Rgds

Damon

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Re: talk next week on "Dynamic Demand" (3.00 / 0) (#14)
by dnix71 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 11:24:49 AM MST

We have "CAFE" in the US "corporate fuel economy average" for motor vehicles. Even with that we get into repeated trouble if the price of oil goes up suddenly. Most of peak demand electricity is produced from burning oil and natural gas.

It's a matter of national security and personal survival.

There are minimum standards for energy efficiency for many household appliances. Refrigeration, lighting, space heating and cooling, clothes washers and dryers. The power company can also MAKE you install power factor correction equipment if you are a large enough business and want to connect to the grid.

We share resources because the world is too crowded to do otherwise. The rich can always thumb their nose at the poor (like Al Gore living in a mansion and using a private jet), but the rest of us need to learn to share.

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Re: talk next week on "Dynamic Demand" (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by DamonHD on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:50:34 PM MST

SA allowed it's safety margin to get too low (<8% when >15% is generally considered good) and there were rolling blackouts for months.

Google for 'Eskom' (the name of the SA electricity company) and 'power cut' and you'll find plenty of background.

Eskom was starved of funds for years by the government, and supplied with poor fuel as the side-effects of political concessions, then then, well, the lights started going out.

Huge price rises planned, and many of the features that I mention in my presentation.

Rgds

Damon

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