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Arc fault trickle lights LEDs | 18 comments (18 topical)
Re: Arc fault trickle lights LEDs (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Chuck on Wed Mar 04, 2009 at 04:25:52 PM MST

Hi Paul,
Yes, right on all counts. Unfortunately the how it works section is very short on specifics.

I surmised that there must be a trickle of current being utilized by the sensor, but I still don't know how a current, no matter how small, can be flowing in a circuit that has the switch turned off. Both hot and neutral connect to the breaker, but the other end (switch) is open, no contact, thus no current flow. The sensor circuit can only flow within the breaker. Or so my logic leads and dumps me. So I'm still confused.

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Re: Arc fault trickle lights LEDs (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by Madscientist267 on Wed Mar 04, 2009 at 06:56:00 PM MST

Your LED nightlights are probably not truly 'off' but being turned off by a transistor/SCR/triac.

If there is sufficient noise produced by the sensing circuit in the AFCI, there may be transients that are sufficient to pass through. One of those cable sniffers may be able to provide some insight, if straight out ripping one apart doesn't reveal the answer. :)

If the LED lights have a CdS cell in them to detect light, it is highly possible that this is how they are set up, and so will not light up when plugged into a regular outlet. Small power supplies inside such things are notorious for using capacitive-transformerless designs, which are rather 'sensitive' to high frequency switching like what may be happening inside the AFCI.

Not 100% on this, but it's likely.

Steve


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Arc fault trickle lights LEDs | 18 comments (18 topical)

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