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MREA small wind conference and energy fair | 8 comments (8 topical)
Re: MREA small wind conference and energy fair (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by Beaufort on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 07:36:03 PM MST

Great report and pictures, looks like a lot of fun.  I agree with your statement about the latest push for wind power and how tax dollars are being wasted on poorly-engineered projects.  That kind of stuff is going to give everything a bad name going forward.  We need to learn from the UK and the whole Windsave fiasco to see that qualified people have to be involved with site evaluations and a realistic workup of cost vs. output.  

The UL aspect of the game is also something that will need to be debated before becoming a directive.  I spoke to some of their folks at Windpower 2009 in Chicago and they are treating the small wind turbine business like any other electrical device that can cause harm to people.  Some may see that as a benefit to lay-people and the manufacturers may see that as a huge investment with UL just to have the chance to sell products.  Either way the result needs to be something that will drive the industry forward and inspire innovation.

Deep respect to the trip with the '66 Volvo.
Beaufort



Re: MREA small wind conference and energy fair (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by DanB on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 07:48:49 PM MST

My concern is perhaps somebody is trying to solve problems that dont exist.. or - perhaps the driving force behind this UL listing stuff is by manufacturers.  So far as I know, currently... the only rules regarding grid tie at the moment say that the inverter must be UL listed.  At this time, so far as I know the only UL listed wind turbine is the Southwest Windpower Skystream which has the inverter built in.  That same machine also has no passive control system ~ certain electronic failures can result in a runaway turbine that can't even furl.  So I have to wonder...

I wonder if the new 6' diameter roof top wind turbine built by Honeywell, soon to be sold at Ace hardware will be UL listed and 'allowed'!  That is one of the scams to com along yet in my opinion (much like the windsave stuff in the UK)- I am amazed that two such large companies are getting involved with such silly stuff.

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MREA small wind conference and energy fair | 8 comments (8 topical)

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