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steeolico

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Plans for the realization of one turbine Banki Cross-Flow .
« on: August 13, 2006, 06:32:00 AM »
Ho progettato una turbina Banki Crossflow sperimentale, dimensionata per una caduta di 50' = 15 metri e una  portata d'acqua di 0,33 cfs = 9,4 litri al sec. Potenza idrica = 1380 watt,  Potenza elettrica = 621 Watt (se il rendimento totale dell'impianto picoHydro è di 0,45).

La turbina è costituita da 20 palette  ricavate da un tubo dal diametro interno di 2", racchiuse in due dischi di acciaio inox dello spessore di 3 mm, con un diametro di 6,1" = 15,5 cm.

Qui sotto ci sono i disegni e i calcoli effettuati per il progetto:


Plans for the realization of one turbine Banki Cross-Flow .


I have planned a turbine Banki Crossflow experiences them, determine the proportions for one fallen of 50' = 15 meters and a water capacity of 0,33 cfs = 9,4 liters sec.  Power water = 1380watt, Power electrical  = 621watt (if the rendering total of the system picoHydro is of 0,45).

The turbine is constituted from 20 blade from a tube from the inner diameter of 2", enclosed in two stainless steel discs of the thickness of 3 mm., with one diameter of 6,1" = 15,5 cm.

Here under there are the designs and the calculations carry out you for the plan:              








CALCOLI


H = altezza caduta = 50' = 15 metri.


Portata acqua = 0,33 cfs = 9,4 litri al secondo


p= raggio paletta = 1" = 2,54 cm.;


r1 = raggio del disco = (p/0,326) = 3,06" = 7,7 cm;


D1 = diametro disco laterale = r1*2 = 3,06*2 = 6,1" = 15,5 cm;


a = (0,17*D1) = 0,17*6,1" = 1,037" = 2,65 cm;


r2 =  (r1 - a)  = 3,06" - 1,037" = 2,023" = 5,14 cm;


(L*D1) = (210,6 * Portata acqua / H ½ ) = 210,6 * 0,33 / 7' = 9,93";


L = 9,93"(L*D1) = 9,93"/6,1" = 1,62";


L = 1,62" + 25%(compensazione perdita spessore pallette) = 2" = 5,1 cm.;


N = velocità turbina = (862/D1)*H ½  = (862/6,1")*7 = 990 rpm;


altezza teorica paletta = 73,28° di un tubo del diametro interno di 2" = 1,456" = 3,7 cm;


circonferenza esterna di un tubo di 2" (con spessore 0,118" = 3 mm.) = 17,835 cm;


Il disco è stato suddiviso per venti palette = 360°/20 = 18°


CALCULATIONS:


H = Head = 50' = 15 m.


Capacity water = 0,33 cfs = 9,4 liters to the second


p= radius blade = 1" = 2,54 cm.;


r1 = radius of disc = (p/0,326) = 3,06" = 7,7 cm;


D1 = diameter lateral disc = r1*2 = 3,06*2 = 6.1" = 15,5 cm;


a = (0,17*D1) = 0,17*6,1" = 1,037" = 2,65 cm;


r2 = (r1 - a) = 3,06" - 1,037" = 2,023" = 5,14 cm;


(L*D1) = (210,6 * Capacity water/H ½) = 210,6 * 0,33/7' = 9,93";


L = 9,93"
(L*D1) = 9,93" /6,1" = 1,62";


L = 1,62" + 25% (compensation loss thickness grape shots) = 2" = 5.1 cm.;


N = speed turbine = (862/D1) *H ½ = (862/6,1") *7 = 990 rpm;


theoretical height blade = 73,28° of a tube of the inner diameter of 2" = 1,456" = 3,7 cm;


external circumference of a tube of 2" (with thickness 0,118" = 3 milimeter) = 17,835 cm;


The disc is subdivided for twenty shovels = 360°/20 = 18° .


Qui sotto è riportato un iniettore che provvede all'immissione dell'acqua nella turbina a 16 °.


Nel mio caso ho scelto un triplo Nozze.


Here under an injector is brought back that supplies to the breaking in of the water in the turbine to 16 °.

In my case I have chosen triple a Nozzle.





Successivamente ho disegnato il disco con le palette ed ho riportato i punti dalla carta al metallo. Nelle foto sono illustrati i vari passaggi fino alla verniciatura.


Subsequently I have designed the disc with the blades and have brought back the points from the paper to the metal.

In the photos they are illustrates you several the passages until the paint job.                                                                                                    













































Questo è tutto...!

Ciao Steeolico


This is all a... !  Ciao Steeolico

« Last Edit: August 13, 2006, 06:32:00 AM by (unknown) »

willib

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Re: Plans for the realization of one turbine
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2006, 12:39:57 AM »
what do you think about sharpenning the inside of the blades

it might let the water out a little better?
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Re: Plans for the realization of one turbine
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2006, 12:47:52 AM »
Yes, Willib
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Re: Nozzle for turbine Banki Cross-Flow .
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2006, 01:18:13 PM »
Hello Ciao Steeolico,


As mentioned the water entry point the blades should be sharp, maybe not knife edge sharp, you don't want to cut your self, just sharp. You can't get into the inside second edge... it built. Had you considered using plastic pipe?


The Banki turbine uses concepts from both impulse (Pelton wheel) and reaction turbine design.


With this in mind the nozzle must form a venturi to speed up the water for the impulse to work. I have seen several designs of nozzles with huge openings, the thinking was less losses. Output was poor, only the reaction aspect of the design was working.


I have no idea of the proper ratio of the pipe area to venturi area or even what factors are involved. Most good designs can change the venturi size to optimize performance. If and when you do please post it, I have looked around.


If you have a constant flow of water an induction motor with speed up gear to synchronize motor to grid may be a lower cost form of generator. 1.5-3 HP should work for you. A controller to prevent back feed and load control is needed, controlling the venturi.

Have fun.

Scott.

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steeolico

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Re: Nozzle for turbine Banki Cross-Flow .
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2006, 02:32:30 AM »
The blades they are only sharpenned to the center of the disc, in the external side has been removed the material in more.  They are in agreement with you for the nozzle.

Thank Scott.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2006, 02:32:30 AM by steeolico »

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Re: Nozzle for turbine Banki Cross-Flow .
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 07:28:21 AM »
Ciao,complimenti, ma come funziona alla fine?
vieni su http://energierinnovabili.forumcommunity.net/
nel settore idroelettrico !
ciao
http://www.otherpower.com/images/scimages/7615/mia_Banki



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