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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2015, 08:41:46 AM »
Harold, I've ordered a luminometer to help me determine my light dispersion levels working at night the way I have things is no problem but during the day going in and out of the van is like the opposite of night blindness for these old eyes. I really need to paint the ceiling and upper 4 feet of the walls with gloss white and the lower 6 1/2 ft with flat white but that will have to come later. I also suspect that the 120v LEDS would benefit from reflectors and diffusers or be placed at around 8 ft from the floor but I cannot have them hanging down in my way.
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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2015, 11:18:58 AM »

 Frank, know all about the light changes from entering-exiting shops. I wear self darkening glasses and they help, but, going from outside to inside is a bear for a few seconds.

 I just want to eliminate shadowing when I try to see critical things. Also to cut down on light bill as much as possible. I bought 3 of the 42 LED square shaped lights to see how they perform.

 Thanks, Harold

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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2016, 05:57:34 PM »
A while back all my Cfls in my shop burned out at the same time from high voltage.
  I've always had a problem with Cfls because they take so long to warm to full brightness. They don't like to be turned on and off then back on again very much. and I don't think they really last all that much longer than an incandescent. Probably a shorter life than a regular bulb when turned on and offf several times a day.
 I replace these with Leds that just screw into the sockets and look like regular 60 w bulbs they are 800 lumens and draw 9 watts I'll see how well they work over time I guess.
  Thye were cheap enough at $4.00 apiece.
 This week end I went out to our house we will be moving to it has about 80 light sockets  maybe 20 of these have Cfls  in them half of these are burned out and another 15 of the incandescent bulbs are burned or missing
  even at $4.00 I'm looking at over $300.00 to replace all of them. I think for now I will only replace the ones that are missing and burned out.
  The prices are dropping as the LEDs become more popular.
beware of the life/hours that is stated on the package.
Led's used to have 50,000 hours then 30,000 hours, then dropped to 18,000 and now they are at 5,000 hours. same brand at lowes hardware.
So they are getting cheaper and with  it is the life is going down of those bulbs.

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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2016, 06:06:06 PM »
I bought 12 volt LED bulbs like that, but they had 7 watts.
5 pieces for $20 about 2 weeks ago.

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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2016, 07:12:00 PM »
If you buy and use a constant current supply the life of those leds will be extended. Run them a bit below(20% or so) of max current. You lose very little output of light but they run cooler/last longer.

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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2016, 12:27:35 AM »
LED are more efficient at lower power. From the data sheet of a 9W unit the lm/W = 155@175mA, 137@350mA, 120@500mA, 112@700mA.  That is 38% more efficient at low power or 13% more loss each time the current is increased about 200mA.


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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2016, 07:18:49 AM »
Way way back in 2013  8) during my short stint up in Ohio, GHURD and when Rich and I made the trek to Philippines in 2010 , it really was interesting to see (pun intended) how well the human eye adjusts to lower light levels.
On both we were able to take 20ma LEDs down to 15ma before there was any perceived differences.
When a home's only source of light is a 12V/7Ah battery that gets charged from a 10 or 17 watt Solar panel , the saving adds up.
The picture I posted up here of the 80y/o lady was one of those defining moments.
To this day a spec my LED lights at 15ma instead of pushing them too much.
Cassy's LED master class remains on this forum if you are so inclined to read up on it.

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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2016, 08:52:13 AM »
Interesting you should mention that.  I have had an interest in LED at ultra low power
levels.  I did a little development project years ago for an organization that worked
with farmers is southeast asia.  Workers needed to monitor field pumps all night. That
involved them having to walk a mile on a two foor wide levee that often had snakes and
alligators resting.  Solution had to be cheap and easy to install.  I used a 3W LED
series die that operated at about 90V and a capacitive input voltage doubler.  My lawnmower
was a test bed for this with a connection to the points.  Less than a mw was enough to
be seen at distance when pointed at you. Most line voltage LED lamps have an anti ghost
resistor that consumes about a quarter watt to keep lamps off from capacitive pickup.

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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2016, 12:35:17 AM »
I'm running an LED nightlight off milliwatts or possibly microwatts.  Lasts months at a time off 4xAA NiMH.

http://www.earth.org.uk/LED-homebrew-nightlight.html

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Re: 12VDC LED Lamps
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2016, 09:15:12 AM »
Damon;
I read through your posting on that Night Light. Very interesting. I may be incorrect, but, it seems the PV may not have been charging the batteries , along with a possible bad battery.
I'd be curious about the latest update.
I have also seen that low dim but still usable light output from NiCD/NiMH batteries (The fact that they'll work until dead, is why I like using them so much).

I'll get a pic of a light we're using as a night light and add it to this post.
Still simply amazing how well LEDs can light up a room, even the cheapo one that run off AAs !!
I still owe a pic of the charger similar to what OperHouse posted in a different post.

Cheers
Bruce


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