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J0hann

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Nickel-Iron cells in parallel or not
« on: November 28, 2014, 04:23:21 PM »
Unlike lead-acid cells, it seems like it would be possible to connect Ni-Fe cells in parallel without any harm done. Am I correct in my assumption or not?

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Re: Nickel-Iron cells in parallel or not
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2014, 06:52:22 PM »
Where did you read there are problems connecting lead acid cells in parallel?
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Re: Nickel-Iron cells in parallel or not
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2014, 02:54:01 PM »
I think you may have got it back to front - lead acid are fine in parallel; I think it's Nicd/NiFe that cannot be paralleled (at least when charging - IIRC the cell voltage can drop once a cell has reached full charge, causing the not-yet-charged cell to discharge through the charged one and causing the charged one to heat up).

but I'm not a expert onNiFe so I could be wrong.

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Re: Nickel-Iron cells in parallel or not
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2014, 04:21:56 PM »
Where did you read there are problems connecting lead acid cells in parallel?

Somewhere in manufacturers instructions, but I am still looking to find it again.

Anyways, I am just wondering how Ni-Fe will perform in parallel. Apparently they are virtually indestructible:can tolerate overcharging, over-discharging and many more.

Due to the high price of Ni-Fe, I was thinking to start with a small Ah-rating, then later adding a parallel branch when funds permit.

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Re: Nickel-Iron cells in parallel or not
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2014, 10:47:50 PM »
There are problems equalizing any series string, no matter what the chemistry. That's why better lithium tool batteries have a battery management chip on each cell.

Nickel-iron has a very low cell potential (1.2v), which means you have to string more in series to get the same voltage as with lead acid (2.05v).

Nickel-iron also uses caustic lye as an electrolyte, which means you must keep the electrolyte from contact with the air. The CO2 in air reacts with water and the OH- ions in the electrolyte and neutralizes it. It also forms carbonate scale. Replacement water is more frequent than lead-acid and must be high purity water with no dissolved minerals.

Edison was a bright guy, but lead-acid is easier to deal with. That's why lead-acid is universally used for backup power.

There are some sodium chloride-nickel alumina batteries now available for backup power that are supposed to be better than lead-acid, but I don't see them sold except to telecoms and the military. Because electrons can't move across the alumina barrier, they have extremely low rates of self-discharge, and are supposed to last >3,000 cycles at 80% DOD.