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Harold in CR

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2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« on: March 09, 2017, 11:58:55 AM »
Just purchased a complete Leaf battery (48 modules) with under 10K miles. Will be delivered to Fl on Sat. the 11th of March. Whatever is inside ( cables, connectors, etc.) will probably also be available. I need some for myself, but, probably 30 modules will be available. Great for home backup or off grid-semi off grid, or e- vehicles, golf cars, etc. Each module measures approx. 9" X 11.5" X 1.25" . Weight per module approx 8 pounds. Voltage nominal 15.2.  16.4@ 4.20. 66A per module.

$115.00 per module + S&H through Fed-Ex max. 3 modules per pkg-cardboard box. Also, larger purchase can be shipped freight + S&H
 

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 06:39:42 PM »

48 modules @ $115 ea =over $5500 Plus Freight.
Pretty substantial purchase.
I would not have assumed these things were exactly think on the ground but I would also have not thought they would be quite that expensive either.

Can you elaborate on how you are going to set it up and use it?

Harold in CR

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 07:40:05 PM »

 I plan on keeping 10 and selling the rest. Wiring up 7 cells will work perfectly for a 24V (22.5-29V) low to high Volt span on a 24V Inverter. These modules have 4 cells all individually separable to connect in various voltages. I have used a 20S pack in my homebuilt motorcycle with good success.

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 11:07:08 PM »
I would definitely be interested, except getting them to Australia by any method is just impossible except bringing in a whole car or complete battery by container.


Harold in CR

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2017, 10:08:20 AM »
 
 Warpspeed, I am presently trying to put together a sale into Brisbane with another possible customer. Send me details and maybe we can put you 2 or more together with a shipment. Maybe there is a branch of the Aus EV association in your area. You might visit them and ask if anyone is interested in sharing a purchase/shipping.

 Duncan, from the diyelectriccar forums, had a complete Chevy Volt battery shipped into New Zealand for around $500.00 through a speed shop, I believe, as some of their import business.

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2017, 10:47:06 PM »
I would be interested in ten cells, but am not in any particular hurry.
These will almost certainly need to come by ship in a container.
Work out what is possible with regard to shipping, and keep me in the loop.

One problem you may not be aware of is that any goods entering Australia that have a value over $1,000 Australian ($750.00 US) are liable for a 15% import duty.
So to avoid that, Individual shipments must be made up of less than 5 cells, possibly even only 4 depending on the exchange rate at the time.
Anyhow see what you can arrange from your end.

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 01:46:37 AM »
Warp, Have you looked on the local Fleabay?
Quick search found a heap of Priarse battery packs and even more of the inverters if they are any good for anything.
Don't know anything about the priarse packs but they would have to be comprable in price to importing  something.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toyota-Prius-Main-Hybrid-Battery-NHW20-Fits-10-2003-05-2009-/192099074048?hash=item2cb9ff4000:g:beMAAOSw241Ymn4K

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TOYOTA-PRIUS-BATTERY-ZVW30R-MAIN-HYBRID-BATTERY-07-2009-10-11-12-13-14-15-/152328377306?hash=item23777a93da:g:ABcAAOSwB09YNM2F


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toyota-Prius-Hybrid-Battery-Pack-reconditioned-with-warranty-onsite-fitting/282364012274?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140117125611%26meid%3Dd52f18e569a1401e86fb916275d4bef0%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D7%26sd%3D172434545255

Couldn't find anything on the leaf but the major wreckers are on a parts ordering/ exchange system so you could get an idea of availability with one call.
Toymotor may be the best bet now as there are plenty of wrecked Priarse and camry Hybrids.

Don't know if you are wanting them for a mobile application but if for standby and you wanted some real  capacity at a price that would knock power walls out of the park, maybe something like this would fit the bill?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Solar-Battery-Lead-Acid-Traction-12V-3000AH-Deep-Cycle-Low-Maintenance-Like-New-/222431947845?hash=item33c9fa2c45:g:09MAAOSwa-dWsWys

They seem to have loads of them and I'm sure there would be similar places in every capitol.
Look like an economical storage solution to me.


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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 02:00:11 PM »
Thanks George, I am really after lithium not lead acid or metal hydride.
Its for the usual home solar storage application.

The problem is that lithium batteries are classed as hazardous material and its very difficult to arrange shipping, especially overseas.
By the time I  add shipping and handling costs, and import duty to imported batteries that really knocks the edge off the value, plus there is always the risk that used batteries may be somewhat below full brand new performance.

I might be interested if the price is right, but to put this all into perspective (in US dollars).
Nissan leaf battery 7.5v 65 Ah = 488 watt hours for US$115 if picked up in Florida.
If I include import duty to Australia (but not shipping) that comes to US$132

I can buy locally brand new Winston (with one year warranty) 3.2v 100Ah = 324 watt hours for US$135
Now 488 watt hours are a lot more than 324 watt hours, about 50% more.

But shipping costs to Australia, plus the risk of degraded performance of second hand batteries will narrow that difference right down.
Is all the trouble and risk worth saving what will probably end up in the end being a minimal amount ?

If I was located in the US, I would grab these in a flash. 
But its not quite that simple being located half way around the world.

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2017, 10:03:15 PM »

 I mistakenly put the wrong voltage in the original description. I had separated the cells in my first bunch of Leaf modules to get a higher voltage.  ::)

 These modules are 7.2V nominal @66Ahr each. Sorry about the wrong info.

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 03:29:31 PM »

 I need to move these modules, so, price drop to $105.00 + S&H. Still working on Aus shipping. People just don't respond to their own request shipping form submissions.  ::)

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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2017, 04:22:56 PM »
I have just ordered and paid for some brand new Winston 60 Ah cells. These are individual 3.2v cells, so two of them would be roughly the equal to one Leaf module.
These are brand new with a one year warranty, and cost $165 US dollars (per pair) delivered hassle free to my door all costs inclusive.

By the time 15% import tax is added, plus shipping costs, and the risk of a no warranty no return overseas purchase, I decided to go for brand new.
Even if you could match that price, they will still be second hand batteries compared to new batteries.






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Re: 2015 Nissan Leaf battery modules
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2017, 03:49:50 PM »
 Sounds like you made a wise choice. Good luck with your system.  8)

 Photos added.  BMS shown in battery has been sold.