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Wind Turbines - wood


By VermontMaple, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Fri Nov 21st, 2003 at 03:56:41 PM MST
Softwood/Hardwood ?

I am a newcommer to off the grid. I have a 48vdc sw4048 system and need to charge my batteries with something other than a generator. I plan to build a medium sized HAWT maybe 15 foot diameter. I want to use my own lumber-

I have noticed that practically every how-to article uses  some type of softwood / fir for their prop construction materials. I am curious if this is for ease of construction (easy to cut) or maybe the overall wieght of the finished product?. I have seen many Props for older small aircraft and they are made from hardwood with metal leading edges. I have several oak,elm,maple,beech,hop-hornbeam (even some white pine) logs headed for the mill and want to know which ones should be sawn for blades. I like the elm ...very strong, but that may be a problem? . I haven't seen anywhere a disscussion of the differant attributes of various building materials for rotor blades.
and as for the sawing of these logs...plane sawn, rift sawn or quarter sawn . Any ideas/comment would be very welcome.

Thanks

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Re: Wind Turbines - wood (none / 0) (#1)
by JB on Fri Nov 21st, 2003 at 04:06:00 PM MST
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on the old otherpower board wyomingbob posted a nice article on the differant woods. you might search that out. Good Luck. JB



Re: Wind Turbines - wood (none / 0) (#2)
by wdyasq on Fri Nov 21st, 2003 at 05:15:53 PM MST
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VM,

This link might help:

http://www.woodenpropeller.com/index.html

My personal belief is QS or "vertical grain" with the grain radial to the axis.  This would mean the tip would appear to be "flat sawn".  Species selection would be a personal choice.  Eastern White Pine is rot resistant, has near the strength of Spruce and machines well by hand or machine.

Ron
Adventure is just bad planning." -- Roald Amundsen



Re: Wind Turbines - wood (none / 0) (#3)
by bobn on Fri Nov 21st, 2003 at 05:18:09 PM MST
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 I think economics enters into the picture most of the time so far as the selection of wood for a wind turbine prop. however if you have the wood  oak or maple would be my choice. Quartersawed or "verticle grain is probably the best.

  http://www.woodenpropeller.com/index.html
here is a reasonably good sight with some descriptions and pictures.

bobn




Re: Wind Turbines - wood (none / 0) (#4)
by DanB (danb@*no spam*otherpower.com) on Fri Nov 21st, 2003 at 05:26:22 PM MST
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Id suspect we need to look for the best strength/weight ratio to some degree.

My guess is trees that grow extremely tall and narrow are probably good candidates - they must suffer some similar forces.

Some woods seems hard and brittle, like Oak - and some are very heavy (not to mention hard to carve!).  Seems like Eastern White Pine is always my best option at the lumber store, they sell it rough cut and it's pretty easy to get stuff thats 2" thick, 8" wide and not uncommon to find 12' boards with very few (if any) knots.

I like spruce, and fir - around here lodgepole is plentiful but we have to mill that ourselves, you can't buy the lumber.

I think tight grains are probably better - but I think to some degree we have to work with whats available.

  I'd avoid woods like maple - very strong, but heavy and the issue of weight could really become an issue when its spinning fast.  I think light weight wood has to be best so long as the grains are reasonably tight and its strong.  

Regarding how it's cut - I think anything has its pros and cons.  Vertical grain seems best, but I think it's more prone to cracking especially at the tips.  Usually when I pick wood I worry a lot less about the way the grain runs than I do knots - or pitchy/brittle areas.  I've used vertical grain, slash grain - usually its somewhere in between.

Lots of times normal pine lumber from Home Depot (I don't go there anymore though...) works fine.  Lately we try to either mill it up here or get it from a local lumber yard which specializes in furniture grade lumber.  Again, my preferance there is Eastern White pine simply because they usually have lots to choose from - and its a fraction the cost of fir.  If cost were not an issue my first choice would probably be fir.



Re: Wind Turbines - wood (none / 0) (#5)
by boomer on Fri Nov 21st, 2003 at 07:32:40 PM MST
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how about some cross grain lamanation of wood like plywood. but build the lamanate of what ever wood you like and what ever size you like.

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