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Hydrogen motor conversion


By Geek, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Tue Dec 9th, 2003 at 04:48:55 PM MST
Has anyone ever seen a regular internal combustion engine to run on hydrogen?<br>  

Has anyone ever seen a regular internal combustion engine to run on hydrogen? I am thinking of trying this and was wondering if anyone on the board has tried.
I plan on testing by remote since hydrogen likes to go boom but I think with the proper precautions it could be a viable way to use home made fuel for low wind periods.
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vacuum (none / 0) (#1)
by wdyasq on Tue Dec 9th, 2003 at 07:08:36 PM MST
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One of the problems of running and Internal Combustion engine on hydrogen is the by-product is pure steam.  Until the engine becomes hot enough to were the steam will not condense, the vacuum caused by ignition will not produce power.

Been there, done that..... unfortunatly, I didn't have an accountant good enough to even dedcuct the cost of the game from my income.  And, it was "prior art", meaning I was not the only one stupid enough to try it.

Ron
Adventure is just bad planning." -- Roald Amundsen



Re: vacuum (none / 0) (#3)
by Geek on Wed Dec 10th, 2003 at 09:56:09 AM MST
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I'm thinking about a almost constant run genset so even if I had to heat the engine to 150 degrees C to start it really woulds not be a big deal. I hope to take a motor and run it a very low rpm (like 200 rpm) with the addition of a large flywheel. to produce around 3 HP for charging a battery bank. I plan on making the hydrogen by from solar and wind resources and storing it in a 1000 gal. propane tank. My goal it to have enough hydrogen stored up to run the place for a month if I run into a low wind low light situation. I plan on using the waste heat to supplement a outside wood burner.
Check out this link for using hydrogen in ICM.
http://www.ott.doe.gov/otu/field_ops/pdfs/fcm03r0.pdf

Alway have a dream. Those with out dreams are just waiting to die.
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Re: vacuum (none / 0) (#5)
by troy on Fri Dec 12th, 2003 at 08:17:10 AM MST
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As a fuel, pure hydrogen works beautifully, similar to propane but with less pollution.  Expensive to make and store though.

Good luck, have fun, don't blow anything up that's attached to your body.

Troy

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Re: Hydrogen motor conversion (none / 0) (#2)
by desertratjack on Wed Dec 10th, 2003 at 08:23:23 AM MST
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The indications are that hydrogen is a good fuel for gasoline engines with no modifications to the gas carburetion system is from hydrogenappliances.com
Perhaps starting them on gasoline and then supplimenting the hydrogen is workable.



Re: Hydrogen motor conversion (none / 0) (#4)
by Old F on Wed Dec 10th, 2003 at 04:15:34 PM MST
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Geek

Running a engin on hydrogen should not be any harder than running one  on propane.

I think all you would need is a demand regulator for propane and a supply
of hydrogen at 12 psi to feed the regulator .

I did a duel  fuel conversion on my back up generator this summer I can run ether propane
or gasoline starts easy in cold weather on  propane .

 Check out this post  http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2003/9/1/82526/70829
It not hard to do.

Old F

Have so much fun it should be illegal

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