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Testing a wind genny


By Chuck, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Fri May 30th, 2003 at 12:07:46 PM MST

Here are some pictures of the wind turbine I erected yesterday (with a little help from friends Frank and Ken).

This is the Generator I rebuilt from a fan motor a few years ago but never got around to putting up that many of you have seen on my website.

Yesterday set record high temps yesterday on the Colorado plains and set off some nice thermally induced winds. While the TV station said it hit 94 deg F in Denver, my thermometer in the shade read 102. This gave us about 3 hours to watch it spin and do preliminary tests before taking it down for alteration, adjustment and getting out of the heat.

Above you see the genny up on a 30' Rohn 25G tower overlooking a nice green scene. It will be brown soon enough as summer's heat bakes everying to a crisp.

Here it is on the ground before raising. I don't like how the blades are attached, too bulky. I'll be changing that. The tail is a side furling arrangement with a 4 foot spar. The tail is at a right angle to the bearing shaft, which gives it a droopy appearance. This too will be changed to look a bit more conventional.

The furling tail turns out to be the limiting factor on today's testing. While the rotor self starts in a roughly 10 - 14mph breeze and gets up to 15 volts very quickly. In wind gusts up to 30 mph or so the furling turns the rotor out of the wind soon after reaching 32 volts (open). When furled, the voltage drops slightly and hangs near 30 volts. I prefer to see 40 volts before leveling off. According to my previous testing, 30 volts is generated at roughly 420 rpm and 40 volts at 540 rpm. Only when the furling stuck momentarily in a very strong gust did I see 40 volts. I believe the sticking was caused by flexing of the mast which pinched the too long rotating insert. Shortening the mast and insert should eliminate this sticking .

My camera seems to have a pretty fast shutter. It was hard to find a picture where the rotor appeared to be spinning. But spin is did for several hours.

I hooked up a small 12 volt load during this time to test current output. This was a 12 volt air compressor that draws about 6 amps. It was pointless to hook it to my fully charged 24 volt battery bank. In a 10 mph wind (apparent to the blades at least, causing ~240rpm and 20 - 25 volts open circuit) the load drew just over 6 amps at 15 volts or roughly 100 watts without slowing the rotor appreciably. I expect a dead battery or other stronger load would have had a noticeable effect and shown more amps, but that's all I had at the moment.

So down the tower came in the heat of the day so I can work on hub attachments, furling and other details these few hours revealed. I'll write my findings and conclusions after doing more tests with alterations made.

Testing a wind genny | 4 comments (4 topical, 0 editorial)

Super Job! (none / 0) (#1)
by DanB (danb@*no spam*otherpower.com) on Sat May 31st, 2003 at 10:08:40 AM MST
(User Info) http://www.otherpower.com/

Very nice Chuck!  
How's your new dual rotor machine coming along?  
Presumably you'll have two of them up there soon...

I just got one up on Thursday too... pretty fun!



...to a theatre near you (none / 0) (#2)
by Chuck on Sat May 31st, 2003 at 12:58:18 PM MST
(User Info) http://home.morrisonprairie.com

The dual rotor is coming along slowly. I was hoping to leave this one up a little longer than I did, but with it furling so quickly I decided to refine the furling before doing much more on the dual rotor. I'm coming to see furling as a key element in designing these things and I'm working on an easily adjustable design for testing.

So we'll put the dual rotor testing out a few more weeks unfortunately.

The reason for the dual rotor, aside from intense interest, is to do what this one was going to do before I decided on a 24 volt system. If I was doing 12 volts, I'd stick with this one for a while, but it seems to need to run pretty fast to get much out of it at 24 volts. I have an old wincharger brake that I could put on a two blade rotor... it's tempting... maybe a trip to the lumber yard is in order ...

This stuff is really much too fun
chuck
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Did you ever connect a battery to it? (none / 0) (#3)
by scoraigwind (magnet@scoraigwind.co.uk) on Sun Jun 1st, 2003 at 03:47:50 AM MST
(User Info) http://www.scoraigwind.co.uk

Hi

Very interesting to see the pics and hear the comments.  I would stay with a nice robust blade mounting system if I were you - there is no point in having baldes flying off.

I was surprised you never seemed to get around to connecting a battery.  Personally I have a slight horror of running machines disconnected and I'd be a lot more interested in how the furling system works on load than open circuit.  In fact it will work very differently anyway because the blades will run much slower.  It usually furls later on load but sometimes earlier if the overspeed is enogh to make the propeller 'seek the wind'.

Thanks again for the nice pictures.
Hugh Piggott http://www.scoraigwind.co.uk



Thanks Hugh (none / 0) (#4)
by Chuck on Mon Jun 2nd, 2003 at 09:44:15 AM MST
(User Info) http://home.morrisonprairie.com

Hi Hugh,

I was going to put this on a battery, being afraid of running it open as well. However, when I realized that it was furling before hitting much of a useful voltage (27 volts) even when open, I decided to just load it with the compressor (12 volt) to check current output and take it down to readjust the furling and some other things I didn't like seeing (the mast binding when furling).

I can see that I should have watched the furling a bit closer when the load was on it to see how it differed. When I set up the angles I was a bit concerned since your books have different angles mentioned in them (15 and 27 degrees), so I tried the smaller one first.  I'll set it up for the larger one and see how it responds next. This time I'll make sure there's a bigger load when I do it.

It may just be that the rebuilt generator requires too much speed for a 24 volt system using this 3 blade setup. That's why I'm working on a dual rotor disk alternator in my spare time, to get to 27 volts at a lower rpm.

Thanks for your comments and for making yourself available for the classes here in the US. I got a lot out of the one I was at and I know the Dans did as well.
chuck
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