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Tower testing


By Old F, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Sun Jan 11th, 2004 at 01:39:53 PM MST
Found a some what sane way of doing it : )

Tower testing

Found a some what sane way of doing it : )

As some of you know I have been working on a tower based on the old Wind works plans
for a 30 foot octahedron module tower.

I have been knocking  around some ideas on how to load test it.
Instead of wrecking a section of tower I set up a test rig for sample joints using a long lever.
 With a known weight on the end I can work out the force applied to the sample.

The sample below is 3/4 inch emt conduit with the ends flatted and drilled for a 5/16 bolt.
Like the vertical struts used in the tower
I applied a load of 1100 pounds and it shows  no sine of tearing out or bending of the bolt.
The bolts are grade unknown from the hard ware store I think grade 2.

I would have tried for more but I was running out of  bit and bobs to hang on the lever.
And it was to darn cold out wind chill  9 F.

I want to find out how much it will take be for it fails. But with what I found out to day
things are turning out a lot better than I thought they would.
I still have some torque loading to work out but after churching some numbers.

It looks like my tower can be used as a free standing after all . If I build the bottom 10 foot section with a 6 foot on a side base and tapered to mate to the base of the middle section.

I know this all seems a little over board but I have put up a number of towers over the years.
And I just wanted to know more of what is going on. For me testing and learning is haft the fun.

Old F      

     

Test rig


top and middle section

Tower testing | 4 comments (4 topical, 0 editorial)

Re: Tower testing (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by keleyu on Tue May 17th, 2005 at 08:09:14 AM MST
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This way the base hinge only has to be strong enough to handle the load of raising and lowering
and not the full wind loads.
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Re: Tower testing (none / 0) (#1)
by Wolfie1 on Mon Jan 12th, 2004 at 06:43:22 AM MST
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Hey OldF, I've got a couple of questions about that tower you have there.

First, do you anticipate that the tower will be a tilt up or a permanent one that must be climbed. The octohedral shape doesn't look ideal for climbing without significant additional metal and somehow it looks scary to tilt-up with a wind turbine on top. Perhaps I underestimate the bending loads it can take.

Secondly, assuming that you are going to mount a wind turbine on top, how will you get the power down? Seems like slip rings or dropping an additional pipe down the middle to put the power cable in are the only options I can think of. Just wondering what your thoughts are at this time.

Martin.



Re: Tower testing (none / 0) (#2)
by Old F on Mon Jan 12th, 2004 at 05:40:36 PM MST
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Martin

These day I like to keep my feet firmly on the ground : )
I will leave putting some kind of ladder on it to some one who likes to climb

So it will be a tip over . I am working on some hinge and gin pole  designs  
It does not look  it but it  is very ridged and lite  a 10 foot section weighs in at 41 pounds

Each 10 foot section is made up of two octahedron modules and each module has six vertical
struts five foot long.

  The pic of the tower top doesn't show it to well but it is open and I will bolt on  a stub with
2 inch water pipe for the yaw bearing. Then just run the wire down the middle.

Now if you don't want to put a lot of concert in  or cant for a free standing just  set it  up as a guyed tower. This way you can go higher than 30 feet.

I have heard of 54 footers set up this way built from 1 inch conduit.  With over 300 pounds of
wind generator on top.

This way the base hinge only has to be strong enough to handle the load of raising and lowering
and not the full wind loads.

Old F

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Re: Tower testing (none / 0) (#3)
by South Dakota Farmer (ken_at_thebockgroup.com) on Wed Jan 14th, 2004 at 01:01:00 PM MST
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Just found polarized Octahedron info on B. Fuller site. These people are talking a 12,500 foot tower with the Octahedron module as the basic buiding block... Gives one pause. Ok, 3/4 inch EMT is out, but... You mentioned in an earlier post about the tower looking all wrong from some angles. I agree wholeheartedly. Seems B. Fuller thought so to and "polarized" his Octahedron (also, intellectually looks like this "polarised" Octahedron seems to spread the loads over a larger footprint). Not sure if this is important (the footprint, that is). Let me quote the site " The top triangle of an octahedron may be rotated so that it is pointing in the same direction as the bottom triangle. The octahedron is now said to be "polarized". Polarized octahedra may be stacked vertically and horizontally to form all kinds of structures. In 1966 fuller did a design feasibility study in which he proved that 12,250 foot high towers could be built using existing technology. These towers would be about five times higher than the presently highest tower. Don't know what other ramifications this subtle twist has to the overall structure and construction and, and, and, but... http://buckminster.info/Ideas/04-OctaPolarVertTower.htm
One thing we have in South Dakota is wind...


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