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SMALL AXIAL ALTERNATOR


By richhagen, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Sun Jan 4th, 2004 at 06:57:03 PM MST
SMALL AXIAL ALTERNATOR

I had told Zubbly and Mech last week that I would post some pics of a small axial alternator I had built.  This is  my first post, I hope the pictures turn out, if not, I included links to their current locations on the server.


It is downright primitive compared to some of the designs I've seen here, but I'm still pretty proud of it since I came up with it from scratch.  This first prototype I built was simply 16 coils of magnet around bolts, mounted in a box, with 16 ceramic magnets mounted on a disk.  I built it before I was aware of this site, it has losses from eddy currents, I'm sure, and it cogs significantly, but it works.  Currently, all coils are wired in series, this way, it generates a useful voltage (13V) at under 60 rpm, although not much current.  I had tried 4 sets of 4 coils in parallel and two sets of 8 coils in parallel, and although they appeared to put out more current, they required much higher rpm's.  In low winds,which I suspect are the most common, there would be no productivity.


I rigged it up for a temporary installation by mounting it on a small tower made of rebar and an inch and a quarter galvanized coupling.  I used double sealed bearings around a threaded tube for the joint.


I fit those within an inch and a quarter copper coupling. It didn't fit perfectly,so I put a couple of layers of electrical tape around the outside of the bearings to snug them up.  I used a piece of inch and a quarter tube to hold the bearings in the fitting, holding it in place with screws drilled through the fitting and tube sothat the wind couldn't pull the machine off of the tower.  I checked on the turbine recently and found that there was a little play at the bearing where it mounts to the tower.  I'll haveto find something a little better for future designs.


I weighted this on a two story roof, added a small metal turbine modeled after an ornamental windmill, and tied it in with a pre-existing 12 volt solar system. This connects to a Trace C-12 Load controller.


This charges a 12V. Deep Cycle Battery,


which keeps a couple of white led lights on in my laundry room and a small utility closet.  Excess power generated is wasted right now.  At present, I leave these lights on all of the time.  This fixture has 70 or so leds, I think, I would have to open it up and count them as I can't remember - its been up there more than a couple of years now.  They are mounted on a pcb, three in series with a 120 ohm resistor.  Probably not as efficient as a flourescent, but they are maintenance free.


I'm currently working on a smaller design built with more durable components that I can fit into a smaller tube rather than a box.  I was shooting for a two inch diameter tube, and a 48 volt system, but have had difficulty generating the voltage and power at lower rpm's.  I may try and design something to fit into a 4 inch pvc tube.  I have a 4 story building in Chicago that I can mount them on, but they would have to be not so obtrusive,hence, several small machines vs. one larger one.  Below is a picture of an experimental 3 phase stator that I have been working on for a dual rotor axial type machine.  I will have to greatly increase the number of turns of wire for this design to work.  


This gives you a rough Idea what I'm up to, so any advice, suggestions, critisism is appreciated.

Just trying to have fun.  Rich

SMALL AXIAL ALTERNATOR | 4 comments (4 topical, 0 editorial)

Re: SMALL AXIAL ALTERNATOR (none / 0) (#1)
by zubbly on Sun Jan 4th, 2004 at 07:25:01 PM MST
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hello Rich.

     Thanks for making the post. That is a nice job for using such common materials.  I would be proud of it myself. looks like you are definately on the right track. Also like the idea of you designing and building to suit your own needs.
     I noticed your last picture. looks like you are a fan of using wave windings. keep at that area, as it is a simple and very good way to make easy multiple poles from one coil. I will also be using that technique in my next genny. But with a different twist lets say.

great job!
keep having fun-Zubbly



Re: SMALL AXIAL ALTERNATOR (none / 0) (#2)
by Harry Luubovv on Sun Jan 4th, 2004 at 11:47:08 PM MST
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Hi Rich,

I like what you did and do. It is always nice to see innovatively thinking persons.

Now my criticism if you don't mind. The wave winding is good to the point that it saves wires (And so saves weight) and also saves resistance counts. However, we have to be very careful as to phasing. Because, it is a wave winding so all the coils are wound as one giant coil spread all over the outer perimeter of the stator backing disc. And so all the magnet poles will have to pass the coils in a more precisely synchronized way. Meaning, you will have to have the same amount of coils against same amount of magnets and spacing would have to be same between magnet poles and coils--more cogging. If these rules not observed, you will lose out pretty large due to waveform cancelling one another between coils obviously. In worst of cases, you might end up having zero volt ! If one pole happens to be North cutting while another pole happens to be south cutting at the same instant, both thethe peak and valley waveform will cancel out one another--Zero output !

And then, a complete closed-loop of a coil is more in efficiency than a half open coil.

It is known that multi phases are better for battery life than a single phase charging. Just imagine, the wave technique would entail longer wires again even though you can still employ the wave technique, just imagine the picture, I need to say no more because you simply would need to have running wires to bridge between coils of same phases.

This is all the negatives I can give you, now you can pleasantly see that I am that devil to ya  :-

-No love loss-
Luubovv.

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Re: SMALL AXIAL ALTERNATOR (none / 0) (#3)
by hvirtane (hannu_markus_virtanen(at)yahoo(dot)com) on Mon Jan 5th, 2004 at 11:32:22 AM MST
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Do you have any pictures of the wind turbine,
which you are using?

Your generator idea looks good.
Actually just had a discussion
with one of my friends concerning wave windings.
Harry's thinking about the precision work needed
seems to be very valuable.

- Hannu



Re: SMALL AXIAL ALTERNATOR (none / 0) (#4)
by bill541 on Sun Jan 18th, 2004 at 02:43:10 PM MST
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Hi Rich,

That is a great looking generator you have there, great way to use what materials and tools you have on hand.

It is hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like your magnets are mounted to a wood disc. Maybe you already have, but the magnets should be mounted to a steel disc with alternating poles adjacent to each other.

I have been playing with ferrous cores on the coils as well. I'm wondering if you took the coil/bolt assemblies you already have built and mount them to a steel ring say 1/8" to 1/4" thick if your output would increase.

The reason I say this is that each coil/bolt needs a good return path for the magnetic flux. So two adjacent coil/bolts on a steel ring would form a horseshoe pole that lines up with two permanant magnet poles on the rotor side. I'm thinking this may increase the magnetic flux cutting through your coils.

Just a thought, I'm still experimenting too!

Bill



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