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Xantrex "XPower" 1000 Watt inverter - opinions?


By xeroid, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Sun Dec 26, 2004 at 08:16:15 PM MST
Anyone tried one of these things?

Hi folks.

I had a moment of impulse buying.  I went and grabbed a 1000 Xantrex "Xpower" inverter from Canadian Tire on sale for $70.00 Canadian.

Please tell me I didn't waste my money!  I have to buy the cables to hook it up yet, but I wanted to see if anybody has had any experience with Xantrex inverters.

Something in the back of my mind says that Xantrex was not a good brand in someone's opinion, but my memory is somewhat less than reliable.  

Can anybody provide me with their own experience with Xantrex inverters in general, or better yet, the Xpower 1000 watt inverter in particular?

Thanks in advance.

Xantrex "XPower" 1000 Watt inverter - opinions? | 7 comments (7 topical)

Xantrex "XPower" 1000 Watt inverter (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by jacquesm on Sun Dec 26, 2004 at 02:57:44 PM MST

well, since you already bought it I don't see what my opinion will matter :)


Xantrex has two faces, the first is the company that builds the 'trace' series inverters, and they're an excellent product, when they were designed they were far ahead of anything on the market, and in some ways they still are. Then there is the parent company of what used to be trace, 'Xantrex'. They have bought up a number of companies and are now marketing all these products under the 'Xantrex' brand, which makes it kind of hard to put a label of 'good' or 'bad' on it.


As a rule, you get what you pay for, $70 / 1000 = 7 cents per watt, a full blown trace 4000 will set you back about $4000 which is $1 / watt. That alone should be an indication of the quality of the product.


The inverter you've got is probably OK for incidental use, and you may get lucky and it will last you a lifetime. But I wouldn't expect anything at that price level. Hell, I couldn't even buy the parts, in quantity for that amount, let alone ship it and give you a warranty and a pretty box...



www.greenbits.com



Re: Xantrex "XPower" 1000 Watt inverter (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by JW on Sun Dec 26, 2004 at 09:06:45 PM MST

I dont know guys,

 Off hand, "as a consumer" what I really want, is a 7kw(2phase invertor)220 AC VOLT output with a neutral,(four wires, two hot's, a neutral and a ground). And 24v to 48vdc input. I mean really, if you had your breaker panel input isolated by a 1-to-1 15kva transformer(possebly for plasma TV's computers, etc) that is fed by the inverter/batt bank, youd have whatever you could want in a (utility supplied) residential service. The main problem I see here, is that most competivly priced invertors, are single-phase and rarely over 3kw. If the same spirt of competitive marketing was applied to higher powered, dual-phase invertors. that would be cool.... And to hell with the wheres the, DC power going to come from argument, the problem is efficent output hardware, dual-phase-output is what "I" want, then I can run the oven, clothes drier and other 220vac devices(without invertor stacking). Dont get me wrong, theres so much that can be done with the lower power invertors(less than 3kw), but something that can provide 220v residential power(and plug into the 'main'service(and yes, it should have lineman disconect safety interlock when operating)this will make the real compatibility to RE/AE possible. I dont care who makes the dam thing, but if its 7kw, 2phase, 220ac output I'll be buying it... Just remember, Im not talking about selling back power to the utility, what I want, is just a safety interlock, that completly disconcets from the grid when the invertor kicks on. So if the grid is down, the inverter can never feed an outside line.

JW

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Re: Xantrex "XPower" 1000 Watt inverter (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by xeroid on Mon Dec 27, 2004 at 08:18:24 AM MST

Thanks for the reply JW, but I am not there yet.  I am only just barely getting into all this stuff.  I don't have the funds to set up a 7KW system.  I would LOVE to, but the money just isn't there for it.

I am just dabbling around with a 125AH battery that a friend gave me, so when I saw the 1000W inverter on for HALF PRICE, I just couldn't resist.  We had a black out just two nights before, where even just running the blower fan on the fireplace would have helped out.  Fortunately the power came back on after just two hours later, but winter nights in Canada are a cold and scary concept.  

The inverter could be just the thing to run enough fans and lights to keep pipes (and people) from freezing up until power is restored.

Regards,

Xeroid.
Regards, XEROID.
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Xantrex "XPower" 1000 Watt inverter (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by jacquesm on Mon Dec 27, 2004 at 08:31:31 AM MST

Right JW, no doubt that high end inverters are too expensive when compared to the cheapies.


The difference between the guts of the cheapies and the stackable high end machines is pretty impressive though, besides the fact that I have yet to find a cheap inverter that reached the 5 year mark without blowing up in continuous use....


There is a lot more to a sinewave inverter than there is to a modified square wave inverter.


Ibedonc is busy building one and he seems to be making good progress, but don't expect it to get a UL approval stamp any day soon...



www.greenbits.com
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"XPower" 1000 Watt inverter - opinions (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by nothing to lose on Mon Dec 27, 2004 at 04:05:41 AM MST

Never tried any of the stuff bigger than the little car booster/inverter/aircompressor, but that thing seems pretty good. Is that basically what the Xpower 1000 is? I think mine was something like Xpower 400 plus, not sure can't find box and it's in the van.

I think mine is called Xpower also, but your statement "I have to buy the cables to hook it up yet" makes me think it's not the same thing at all. Maybe just an invertor only.

My little unit came with the wall wart transformer to charge the built in battery from the house, a ciggeratte lighter plug to charge from the car, booster cables to jump start cars and manual says also connect those to external battery to get longer inverter run times, so I can actually have any size battery bank for the 300 watt inverter with those.

I've used it to jump start cars in the yard that won't even light the dome lights their so dead. (I have over 30 cars, vans, trucks)
 Aired up many tires with the built in cordless air compressor.
Used the built in 300 watt inverter to run those twist in CLF bulbs and 4' CLF lights, no buzzing. Fans run pretty good as I recall too. Used it for other things too but forgot what all, so far no problems.

If the Xpower 1000 works as well as this thing then I think it was well worth $70 for sure. Heck if it's a 1000watt continous I might even want one myself :)

Tonight I was in an OLD ROCK house, no power/gas ect.. building a fire in the wood burner trying to get frost off the walls (no joke) and it was really nice to have inverters along for power :)
 The little Xantrex all in one was powering a lamp with a CLF bulb that lit 2 large rooms very well. The Aims 5K was in the back of the mini van connected to 3 deepcycles and I ran an extension cord in the house to power the wood burners blower off that.
 Didn't try the Xantrex for the blower, should have but didn't wnat to run it down, was nice to have the portable unit, better than a flashlight if I wanted to go to other rooms :)
I just rented the house, and was just there first time tonight for a few hours.
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nothing to lose

Spelin and tpying are my strong points, not electronics.



Re (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by ghurd on Mon Dec 27, 2004 at 10:26:04 AM MST

I like them.  But, I am not trying to run my whole house 24/7 either.

Far better than the typical 'China' inverters.

That is only about $50 US.  Two years ago most people would have been very happy with a decent 400w China inverter for $50.

Make your own cables if you have the ability. Cheaper and they fit how you need them.

G-
Ghurd.info



Re: Xantrex "XPower" 1000 Watt inverter (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by pope on Mon Dec 27, 2004 at 12:27:46 PM MST

Just be careful about the ground isolation. The older units would blow if the ground an nutrel were tied together. It is usualy in the front of the manual in small print.  Other wise I like them for occational stuff.



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