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Lawnmower engine prime movers


By jubalearly, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Wed Mar 10, 2004 at 04:02:00 PM MST
small engines for alternators  

Since many of us are interested in small engine for driving alternators, I thought I would post some general info on engines less than 7HP. Push mower engines are verticle engines of about 2 to 6.75HP (so far) and all have the same mounting dimensions and shaft sizes (3 lengths). The shaft size is 7/8" with a 3/8"x24 tapped hole and 3/16" woodruff key slot.

The standard shaft length is measured from the bottom of the mounting ring to the end of the shaft. The bottom of the mounting ring is above the deck, you won't get the right measurement just measuring the exposed shaft that extends below the oil sump. The standard lengths are 3-5/32" (most common), 2-7/16", and 1-13/16".  Self propelled mowers have a 1" shaft section and a second key slot for a drive pulley for the wheels.

The "flywheel" on a lawnmower is the blade. The aluminum "flywheel" on the top is the FAN. There were some verticle engines made for other applications that actually had flywheels, usually cast iron (or steel) fans. So if you think the flywheel is too light it's most likely that you do not have a flywheel, so of course it will be too light. Use a very heavy pulley or add something on your 3-5/32" shaft to act as a flywheel. It's easy to scrounge something, but they do make actual flywheels in this size. Horizontal motors often have one. If nothing else, try a go-kart supply house.

You can often buy a 5 or 6HP motor for the same or less than a 3 or 4HP motor, so look for deals. In the more expensive models, the engines are often swapped out on new mowers to get in the "right" performance or price range. Sometimes they simply don't sell one year and a more up-to-date engine is required next year. A couple of years ago EPA required emission carbureators, and there are a lot of pre 2000 6HP motors on the shelf.  Before that it was "compliance" (the kill switch). The same with 6.5HP motors, new ones are 6.75HP.  Try here (I don't work there, I'm just a happy customer).

http://www.jackssmallengines.com/Special.cfm

My old Murray that came with a 3.75HP now has a 6HP with a quiet muffler & cast iron sleeves and cuts much more easily and faster.

Most manufacturers have horizontal engines corresponding to above verticles. There is more variation among snowblowers, roto-tillers, generator drives and go-karts or other models. Much of the info is the same however. See manufacturer sites for model number ID and more info. HTH                       -RussH

Links to manufacturers:
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/
http://www.tecumsehpower.com/
http://www.jackssmallengines.com/phone.cfm for others  

Lawnmower engine prime movers | 7 comments (7 topical)

Re: Lawnmower engine prime movers (none / 0) (#1)
by zmoz on Wed Mar 10, 2004 at 06:32:11 PM MST

The cheapest place I've found for small engines is http://smallenginewarehouse.com . If you're buying a new engine specifically for a generator, get a vertical. They are allways cheaper, and work the same for a generator, as long as you've got that heavy flywheel. Also the Briggs Intek's are good choices for generators, OHV means less gas useage.



Re: Lawnmower engine prime movers (none / 0) (#2)
by ibedonc on Thu Mar 11, 2004 at 04:23:03 PM MST

Diesel is the only way to go for me , I can get plenty of WVO to run it on for free

I got a 6hp for $278 new , got 2 105 gm alt's on the way for $48 each and a v-belt pulley on the way from mcmaster this should do 4kw



Re: Lawnmower engine prime movers (none / 0) (#3)
by Demetri on Thu Mar 11, 2004 at 04:43:14 PM MST

I just got my system up, a 1.6 liter VW diesel burning free WVO. It drives four alternators and powers my entire house, including the 240v well pump and septic system. I paid $200 for the engine, which happened to come with the Rabbit Pickup attached in the usual manner. After some more tinkering, it will preheat my hot water and possibly heat the house as well.

Demetri
Uncommon sense required.



Re: Lawnmower engine prime movers (none / 0) (#4)
by monte350c on Thu Mar 11, 2004 at 09:17:48 PM MST

Hi Demetri,

Sounds like a really interesting setup!

Don't suppose you could be persuaded into taking a few photos of your setup?

I'd love to see it - sounds like a great way to go.

Ted.

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Re: Lawnmower engine prime movers (none / 0) (#5)
by zmoz on Fri Mar 12, 2004 at 08:43:10 PM MST

Yeah, I'd like to see a pic of that too!

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Re: Lawnmower engine prime movers (none / 0) (#6)
by hiker on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 01:31:00 AM MST

what is --free wvo ?-- free waste oil or used cooking oil ?
WILD IN ALASKA
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Re: Lawnmower engine prime movers (none / 0) (#7)
by pat on Wed Apr 07, 2004 at 06:13:33 PM MST

Hi guys!

This site is very cool! I'm glad I found you!

Here is an other link to a vw diesel generator (home built AC genny)
http://www.oldengine.org/members/jdunmyer/genset/

PAT



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