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Third World Refrigeration


By doubter3, Section Remote Living
Posted on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 05:13:50 AM MST
Simple refrigeration method requires no power

In lieu of a question posted about refrigeration a couple of days ago, I thought this was interesting. While more a "cooler" than a refrigerator, it may be of some use to those of you out there currently without other options. It is a little disappointing in that it looks too heavy for use as a beer cooler on canoe trips. :(

http://hinterlands.cc/index.php?showtopic=30

Matt

Third World Refrigeration | 17 comments (17 topical)

Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#1)
by bob golding on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 05:42:36 AM MST

excellent variation on an old idea. i remember  coolers made from ally boxes with a thick shell of plaster of paris around the outside. there was a depression in the top that you filled with water. using sand is a brilliant idea. i guess two clay flower pots would work well. the inside one could be glazed but the outside one would need to be pourous.sp?

bob




Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#2)
by Titchdownunder on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 06:33:04 AM MST

while in africa i became friends with a pommie old fella who made a refigerator cooler
out of fine mesh wire [double layer] with charcoal in between

when the charcoal is wetted thoroughly only a small amount of water is needed 2 keep moist  

he made a huge 1  about 4+m x 3m  and the thing kept game carcasses good 4 quite a time

Titch

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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#9)
by Zero on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 04:04:46 PM MST

They were great, I had one up until a few years ago. Made by a company called Osocool.

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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#3)
by laskey on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 06:38:42 AM MST

There is a similar device on the old boy scout handbook using two pails and a piece of cheese cloth.

You suspend the pails over top of each other, put the stuff you want cooled in the bottom pail fill the top pail with water, hang the chees cloth so it surrounds the bottom pail and is in the water on the top pail and the whole thing works like a capiliar action based evaporation cooler.

I've never tried it because most of the times I'd want to use it the humidity was so high it wouldn't work well, but if you are someplace drier....

Cya,
Chris



Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#14)
by ratkilr on Sat Apr 10, 2004 at 02:59:04 AM MST

 I remember my 2nd grade teacher. She was old back then 20 years ago. She told us a story about how she went out with her brothers fencing in the middle of summer here in montana. It gits over 100 here in the summer. She said they would put jugs of water wrapped in towels or rags out and soak the rags in water. I presume the jugs  were in the shade. She said the water was always cold. Low buck fridge. Robert.

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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#16)
by flintlock on Sun Apr 25, 2004 at 09:10:20 AM MST

it works real well in africa which is probably where R,B,P got the idea from


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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#4)
by stop4stuff on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 07:41:29 AM MST

an excellent application of a simple idea,
the UK BBC tv programme science shack
(http://www.open2.net/scienceshack)
had a proggy a couple of years ago...
the goal was to heat a room (insulated shed) and cool a refridgerator,
this was acheived by using a converted 2 cylinder motorcycle engine as an air compressor (run off hydro),
the compressed air was fed through a vortex tube, seperating the compressed air into hotter and cooler air streams.
The hot air heated the shed and the cold air chilled the fridge.... no fossil fuels or electricity involved...



Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#5)
by kirk on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 09:14:40 AM MST

It is called a Hilsch tube and although very nifty its efficiency is abysmal.
-- Not knowing isn't the problem. It is the knowing of what just isn't so
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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#6)
by bob g on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 11:00:57 AM MST

these are also known as vortex tubes.

they have a voracious appetite for compressed air, although the cold side can and does go well below freezing and the hot side will burn the skin off of your fingers.

they really are quite useful and are a great alternative if you have alot of compressed air available.

perhaps a water pumping mill connected to an air compressor head. most of those mills have incredibly low wind speed start up and very good torque.

might make for an interesting project for someone so inclined

bob g



Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#8)
by stop4stuff on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 03:12:29 PM MST

thanks,
i couldn't remember the name.
is there any other device that runs of compressed air that does the same but more effieciently?

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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#7)
by RatOmeter on Wed Mar 24, 2004 at 02:11:51 PM MST

It reminds me of something else..

The unglazed earthenware olla, a large crock or jar, was used for generations in Southwestern parts of the United States where Spanish language and culture predominate, particularly in South Texas and California. The olla was usually used to store water on a patio and was wrapped in burlap to keep the water cool.

If I recall correctly, I read that water seeps through the clay olla and evaporates, keeping it cool.  If IRRC.  I probably read this in a Louis L'Amour novel.

-RatOmeter



Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#10)
by PaulJ on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 04:24:06 AM MST

   In Australia, we had a device known as a Coolgardie safe (I think- my grandparents told me about it). Wire framed box covered with fabric of some sort, water reservoir on top to keep the fabric damp. Usually hung from a tree branch so it was in the shade, safe from wildlife and in the wind to aid evaporative cooling.
   If you're canoeing, why not just put the beer in the water to cool down 1/2 hour before drinking it? Depends on water temp I guess, and 1/2 hour can be a long time to wait for a beer!



Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#11)
by nothing to lose on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 10:31:18 AM MST

Because the beer breaks loose and sinks to the bottom or floats away, then you have none :(

I go on a river clean up canoe trip twice a year, we always find a six pack or two someone has lost. Fisherman, canoer, or maybe someone from a house on the river is always losing their beer, and a couple sodas two.

Must be because the river is spring feed and stays COLD for miles. Not sure the temps, but yes this river would make a dandy icebox, or even a whole house cooler, forget the airconditioner, tap the river!
.
nothing to lose

Spelin and tpying are my strong points, not electronics.
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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#12)
by monte350c on Thu Mar 25, 2004 at 08:16:44 PM MST

Here's another cooling scheme on a bigger scale, but it would probably work if you're around some cool body of water..

http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/water/deep_lake/

Ted.



Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#13)
by tawa on Thu Apr 01, 2004 at 01:27:41 PM MST

Is the original author saying this will keep foods good for 3 weeks in 110 degree F weather everyday? It seems like the idea would lower the temperature a bit, say 30 degrees F, but if ambient temp were 110, lowered to 80, then I wouldn't call 80 degrees a "refrigerator".
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Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#15)
by flintlock on Sun Apr 25, 2004 at 09:04:38 AM MST

this is a interesting idea there was a company in germany that was developing a refigerator that woked on water evaporation useing a vacume it was a sealed system and the vapor was absorbed be a cristeline call zealite i think i cant find the web site now for the life of me if any one knows what im on about and knows the site would they let me know



Re: Third World Refrigeration (none / 0) (#17)
by hvirtane on Sun May 30, 2004 at 05:06:19 PM MST

Hi,

I think it is EG-Solar.

- Hannu

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