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designing 30 foot vertical windmill


By healerenergy, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Wed Apr 28, 2004 at 11:26:00 AM MST
I need help with shaft specs and hydrolic system

I am in the process of designing a vertical axis windmill with three thirty foot blades and thirty foot in diameter.   I plan on putting it on a forty or sixty foot freestanding tower and use hydraulics to bring the power from the head to the gen set or alternator on the ground.  I am planning a closed loop hydraulic system with a pump a motor two accumulators and the high pressure piping.  The blades will articulate into the wind on both the windward and lee sides with a tail vane.  so they will drive on both sides of the windmill and they are basicly flat  mostly hollow, with rounded edges. It will also have a govener to flatten out the blades in higher winds and push them out like air brakes to slow it down. I already  have the basics figured out my next step is to find out if I can use a hollow shaft for the head.  I saw an earlier post and some one reccomended 1% of the blade diamenter.  Does this also work for vertical if so my shaft will have to be 3.6" inches or more in diameter.  Or should I find an engineer to make sure everything is strong enough to stand up to Kansas winds and drive one of the industrial alternator my uncle has.  This machine was inspired by one of the websites I found and he also post on this site.

 

designing 30 foot vertical windmill | 2 comments (2 topical)

Re: designing 30 foot vertical windmill (none / 0) (#1)
by John II on Wed Apr 28, 2004 at 12:15:40 PM MST

Sounds like you are working with a really interesting design, and fairly large scale at that. I have worked lightly with hyraulic systems... Most are very ineffecient and have alot of waste heat as a byproduct. I highy encourage you to do a thorough research on this before implimenting it. You may well decide to go another energy transfer method. Belive it or not some of my manuals show that energy transfer loss between a hydraulic pump and a motor can be as high as anywhere between 30 to 40 percent. So I would double check to see just what your hydraulic effeciences are going to be. Wishing you all the best... keep the rest of us informed as you progress with your project Ok ?

John II



Re: designing 30 foot vertical windmill (none / 0) (#2)
by healerenergy on Sat May 01, 2004 at 01:04:50 AM MST

jjones
Thanks for the input on hydraulics.  This is a realy fun design project.  A normal hydrolic system is very inefecient.  It is an open loop system with a pump that draws from a resouvoir pumps to a motor then the fluid flows back to the tank which is vented to the air.  The closed loop system I am hoping to use is closed loop so the pushes to the motor and pulls from the motor at the same time.   With a vacumn tank on the pull side and a pressure tank on the push side.  This consept should be a little more effective and will decrease the amont of weight on the top of the tower and might allow me to put in a larger gen set in.  
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