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PM DC Generator


By Doggy, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Mon Apr 5th, 2004 at 07:39:01 PM MST
amps?

If my 99 dc volt pm motor is rated at 15 amps 2200rpm, what kind of amps can I expect from it at say 400 rpm? Does the amp output stay the same with different rpm's? What kind of wattage should I be able to see? I just can"t seem to get a handle on this. Thanks for your help!
PM DC Generator | 3 comments (3 topical, 0 editorial)

Re: PM DC Generator (none / 0) (#1)
by schneids on Mon Apr 5th, 2004 at 10:52:44 PM MST
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Well, I may be wrong, but..........

If you ran it at half speed, you'd get half the voltage and half the current.
In your case, your ratio is 400/2200=.1818

Sooo, your voltage would be .18 * 99 = 18.0v and
your current would be .18 * 15 = 2.72A

Hope that helps...........



Re: PM DC Generator (none / 0) (#2)
by dozer on Tue Apr 6th, 2004 at 01:41:23 AM MST
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First, lets talk about it as a motor....

a) Speed is proportional to Voltage.  You will get X rpm per volt applied.  If the motor-constant is 21 rpm/volt, then 10 volts will give you 210rpm.  As load is applied, current-draw increases dramatically, and inefficiencies cause the speed to drop somewhat.

b) Current is proportional to Torque.  For every X ft-lbs of torque-load you put on the shaft, the motor will draw Y amps. This too is fairly linearly proportional.

Now, turn it around and look at it as a generator...

a)  The output voltage is proportional to speed.

b)  The output current is proportional to -load- (i.e. resistance).

c)  Obviously, you must have -some- voltage output in order to develop any current at all; but even at a voltage less than the machine's rated voltage/speed as a motor, it will still deliver a current which is more related to the load-resistance than it is to voltage.

To prove this, drive it with a large diesel engine at 1,000 rpm....put a dead short across it, with an ammeter in series.

Even with only a miniscule voltage at it's output terminals, you will certainly find a very high current flowing!

And of course, lots and lots of smoke coming out... <g>



Re: PM DC Generator (none / 0) (#3)
by River Goat on Tue Apr 6th, 2004 at 08:51:42 AM MST
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Hi Doggy
I have spent many hours working with PM motors in my job and at home. I use one as my backup generator. Dozer is right on in his explanation of the relations of voltage to rpm and current to torque. The point I would like to emphasize is, a motor/generator will output any  amount of current you want to load it to, limited only by the internal resistance and torque on the shaft. The current rating of a motor is the current it will handle without going up in smoke. Another thing to consider is that current rating stays the same at any voltage. So a 90volt motor at 2amps=190watts. At 14volts x 2amps=28watts and if you overspeed it to 200volts(watch out for flying parts)it will produce 200v x 2amps=400watts.

The trees are turning green and the river is calling.
River Goat (Jerry)



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